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meismr:
Seriously... Find out what statistics are... Seriously.
All 120 pc's I bought for work had a serial connector.  That must mean serial connections are popular on new pc's. 

Get data to support your claim or get owned.   :tool:
saint:

--- Quote from: meismr on February 04, 2008, 08:42:36 am ---Seriously... Find out what statistics are... Seriously.
All 120 pc's I bought for work had a serial connector.  That must mean serial connections are popular on new pc's. 

Get data to support your claim or get owned.   :tool:

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This was not necessary to make your point. Quit it.

patrickl:

--- Quote from: meismr on February 04, 2008, 08:42:36 am ---All 120 pc's I bought for work had a serial connector.  That must mean serial connections are popular on new pc's. 

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What does that have to do with anything? IIRC the computers I bought (helped buy) all had serial and parallel ports too. Just no PS/2.

I'm not even talking about business computers. I recently witnessed a first phase rollout of workstations for the dutch government. Thousands of ps/2-less computers. AFAIK only a few people complained. For instance a guy who insists on using his Dvorak keyboard. Anyway, those computers would probably not be usable for games/MAME so it's not really important. I'm talking about home computers with media/gaming capabilities.

I have to admit that I'm surprised that ps/2 still exists and that the new and improved BTX mainboard design still has not replaced ATX completely. Guess it's easier to make money off the same old design rather than improve on things and they probably tried to change too much at the same time. Or home builders probably just don't realise that BTX is better and keep on buying ATX boards because that's what they know. Still a lot of manufacturers do use BTX boards. Especially for off the shelf PC's.

Still, like I said before. I bought a computer from a store. Wanted to hook up my IPAC and I couldn't because the computer didn't have ps/2. I went back to the store and they had no computers with a ps/2 port (besides some $3000 towers). Luckily I could switch to USB on the I-PAC.

I don't see why this is an issue of so much debate. I simply did not get a ps/2 port on my computer back in 2004 and I did not get one in present day computers. I did not go out of my way to get no ps/2. It's not just Apple, Dell, Fujitsu Siemens and Medion who use use less (or no) ps/2. The stores I went to didn't have a ps/2 port on other brands of PC's either. Good enough indication for me to warn people not to make the same mistake and check if the PC they have actually supports ps/2 before they commit to ps/2.

Besides, there are perfectly good USB alternatives available so why not simply go with USB anyway?
meismr:
Jumping off the thread.  Don't want to piss off Saint.
RandyT:

--- Quote from: patrickl on February 04, 2008, 11:04:00 am ---I don't see why this is an issue of so much debate. I simply did not get a ps/2 port on my computer back in 2004 and I did not get one in present day computers. I did not go out of my way to get no ps/2.

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My point was that you also did not go out of your way to get one that had it, either.  Other consumers apparently are doing this and they want those ports to be there, or they would be gone by now.  Here, they are so common you can still find them everywhere, so your experience is apparently atypical and based on locale or your shopping habits.


--- Quote ---The stores I went to didn't have a ps/2 port on other brands of PC's either.

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Find a different store?  A small sampling of retailers is not sufficient to indicate an industry trend.


--- Quote ---Good enough indication for me to warn people not to make the same mistake and check if the PC they have actually supports ps/2 before they commit to ps/2.

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Good enough advice.  If you had left it at that initially, I'm guessing we would not be having this "debate"  :)


--- Quote ---Besides, there are perfectly good USB alternatives available so why not simply go with USB anyway?

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Yes, there are.  But USB is not always the answer.  If you look at virtually every time someone has had a problem using USB, they are told to "switch to PS/2" and somehow that always seems to work.  99.9% of the time, PS/2 is trouble free because of the maturity of the implementations.  It's a fast, true FIFO port that does this task very well so it should be considered as an option, especially for those who might be using a USB keyboard on a system that has one.  There's little reason not to put that port to use in this application.

RandyT

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