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Carriage Bolts On your CP: Tacky, or Tasteful?

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Avrus:

Lol, I had 3 people on Sunday ask if we were going to put cigarette burns into my CP to make it more realistic. :laugh2:

Havok:

Carriage bolts are DEAD SEXY!

 :applaud:

And, not that it will be a problem if you are building now, but every older cab I have gotten my hands on with t-nuts, the bolts freeze up, and when trying to take the bolts out end up spinning the t-nut around, and damaging the wood...

ArtsNFartsNCrafts:


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--- Quote from: ArtsNFartsNCrafts on January 30, 2008, 12:02:13 pm ---Given that, I'm hesitant to do something like countersink a bolt, fill the recess with putty or what have you, sand that flush, paint and finish...then, UH OH, something happens, and I gotta take the joystick out..
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Well you can take the joystick out just fine when you countersink the t-nut. Why wouldn;t that be possible? There is really no difference between using countersunk t-nuts or carriage bolts. Apart from the fact that you have a clean CP when you use countersunk t-nuts and will have bolts showing when you use carriage bolts.

Look at the picture in this post

It's only a problem when you mount the sticks from the top with flat head screws and then cover the whole stick with putty. I saw that suggested in another thread and indeed that's a method you should not be using if you want to be able to remove/service the parts.

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Yeah, but like I said, I'm not planning on adding an overlay or lexan to my CP...But rather, simply put a nice sturdy finish on the wood.  Given that, if exposed carriage bolt heads are considered tacky, I would certainly consider exposed t-nuts more tacky.  And I guess I'd be more likely to choose the lesser of the two tackies (haha).

MaximRecoil:

Whether certain individuals consider exposed carriage bolts to be "tacky" or "tasteful" is irrelevant in light of the fact that most manufacturers used them at one time or another. The manufacturers collectively defined these machines which brought us to this point in the first place. If they'd never existed, neither would BYOAC. What the manufacturers did, particularly when it was a widespread practice, trumps my or your opinion regarding aesthetics.

You might as well ask if T-molding is "tacky or tasteful". Now a builder of fine furniture and cabinetry who perhaps uses exotic hardwoods would no doubt scoff at the idea of T-molding, which is best known for its use in cheap woodgrain melamine-covered particle board tables with fold-out tubular steel legs.

You need to put things in context. How can something that was so widespread on real machines, including ones from the "classic era", be considered "tacky" without considering pretty much everything else common to those same machines (e.g. T-molding or cartoonish stickers plastered everywhere or low-rent particle board/plywood/MDF construction, etc.) to be equally "tacky"?

RandyT:


--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on January 31, 2008, 02:13:12 am ---You need to put things in context. How can something that was so widespread on real machines, including ones from the "classic era", be considered "tacky" without considering pretty much everything else common to those same machines (e.g. T-molding or cartoonish stickers plastered everywhere or low-rent particle board/plywood/MDF construction, etc.) to be equally "tacky"?

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Meh.  For every machine you find that was put out with carriage bolts visible, you can find one where the manufacturers went the extra mile and hid them.  They both existed in the wild, and one could certainly consider them "tacky" or "uncomfortable", as this is a strict matter of taste.

It's no different than looking at a particular cab design and finding it ugly.   Just because a real machine was built using it, it doesn't change one's opinion of it's aesthetic quality.

RandyT

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