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TinyXP and MAME etc
Namco:
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--- Quote from: protokatie on January 17, 2008, 11:06:05 pm ---
--- Quote ---Yep and it works a treat.
Just make sure you have a license for the OS.
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So the network detection and home networking stuff works well?
Also, the compy has a licence sticker on it for XP home, and it had a legal copy working until it got bricked... I dont think you can get licences for an illegal version of XP (IE tiny Xp) but I dont care, M$ made a horrid OS that I paid for, so I will feel justified by installing a smaller version of that SAME OS on the SAME HD I had the legal (but now bricked) OS on. Im not going to buy the same OS for one computer I already bought the OS for.
(In this case, Bricked OS = wouldnt even let the BIOS screen come up. I had to boot using linux. Dont know how a bricked OS can prevent even the POST from starting...)
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The last version I had downloaded had a working network configuration, so I could use my home NAS to pull up the roms that I use for the main PC (when I'm tired of standing). I can't remember off the top of my head the version, but I'm sure you will find it if you look hard enough.
There is a new version that allows XP to run on any X86 processor, but I haven't tried it on a P120 yet.
:soapbox:
No excuse for not being legit. XP licenses are for one MACHINE not two, so if your PC was poopoo'd and had a license on the base, then off you go to the computer shop and buy an OEM version of XP. Tiny XP is just XP with a modified ISO that is stripped of all the baggage. Just saves you going to buy XP Lite and doing the trimming yourself, which I discourage and you should buy XP lite and have some fun learning to pull your hair out.
Anyhow it works and after reading the posts in Software you will have a nice snazzy machine. I like Mamewah myself and the excellent support on such a product that deserves a plug and all the praise I can give. :applaud:
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You have the license for XP on that computer and XP does need to be installed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with installing XP again on that machine. In large enterprise like the company I work for, all Microsoft requires is that you have the most current or an equivalent license for the software that you are installing. For example buying an Office 2000 license even though you're installing Office '97. They don't care what version you install. However, that machine is licensed for XP home. Make sure you don't go and install XP Pro on it. ;D
BTW on my Tiny XP install, networking works, as in DHCP and Internet is fine, however you cannot access other computers because the Server service and the Workstation service are turned off. You would need to turn them on and perhaps some other services too to be able to transfer files to it over the network.
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Namco on January 18, 2008, 12:02:52 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 17, 2008, 11:23:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: protokatie on January 17, 2008, 11:06:05 pm ---
--- Quote ---Yep and it works a treat.
Just make sure you have a license for the OS.
--- End quote ---
So the network detection and home networking stuff works well?
Also, the compy has a licence sticker on it for XP home, and it had a legal copy working until it got bricked... I dont think you can get licences for an illegal version of XP (IE tiny Xp) but I dont care, M$ made a horrid OS that I paid for, so I will feel justified by installing a smaller version of that SAME OS on the SAME HD I had the legal (but now bricked) OS on. Im not going to buy the same OS for one computer I already bought the OS for.
(In this case, Bricked OS = wouldnt even let the BIOS screen come up. I had to boot using linux. Dont know how a bricked OS can prevent even the POST from starting...)
--- End quote ---
The last version I had downloaded had a working network configuration, so I could use my home NAS to pull up the roms that I use for the main PC (when I'm tired of standing). I can't remember off the top of my head the version, but I'm sure you will find it if you look hard enough.
There is a new version that allows XP to run on any X86 processor, but I haven't tried it on a P120 yet.
:soapbox:
No excuse for not being legit. XP licenses are for one MACHINE not two, so if your PC was poopoo'd and had a license on the base, then off you go to the computer shop and buy an OEM version of XP. Tiny XP is just XP with a modified ISO that is stripped of all the baggage. Just saves you going to buy XP Lite and doing the trimming yourself, which I discourage and you should buy XP lite and have some fun learning to pull your hair out.
Anyhow it works and after reading the posts in Software you will have a nice snazzy machine. I like Mamewah myself and the excellent support on such a product that deserves a plug and all the praise I can give. :applaud:
--- End quote ---
You have the license for XP on that computer and XP does need to be installed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with installing XP again on that machine. In large enterprise like the company I work for, all Microsoft requires is that you have the most current or an equivalent license for the software that you are installing. For example buying an Office 2000 license even though you're installing Office '97. They don't care what version you install. However, that machine is licensed for XP home. Make sure you don't go and install XP Pro on it. ;D
BTW on my Tiny XP install, networking works, as in DHCP and Internet is fine, however you cannot access other computers because the Server service and the Workstation service are turned off. You would need to turn them on and perhaps some other services too to be able to transfer files to it over the network.
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Enterprise and Home is different. What you get up to behind corporate walls and what you do at home is not the same. Yes, you could go that route and I don't think anyone would be any wiser, but YOU would know the difference.
I'm different. I buy the license because its the right thing to do, like all the software I use is bought and paid for. I wish Tiny XP was available on Microsoft's website. But there is another way you could google BartPE and tinker with that. Not the same but it works. On that TinyXP version I have, server services is working as is Internet.
Lakersfan:
I'm not sure what version of TinyXP you're using, but mine has had most of the drivers removed, including joystick drivers. So if you have the U360's, beware... I couldn't find standard Windows joystick drivers ANYWHERE and ended up installing another version of XP.
NOP:
TinyXP (at least the version 06 that I'm using) has 4 different installation types. You can pick with or without drivers and with or without IE, outlook, etc in any combination.
IIRC, I installed without drivers, without outlook or IE, then installed my motherboard's drivers which included a USB driver and network, so I was up and running fine with my U360s and sharing files on my home network in just a few minutes.
Either way, TinyXP is the way to go. Without all the bloat, it boots insanely fast and installs in a couple hundred meg at most.
Just a word of warning: After it copies all the files to the hard drive and reboots for the first time, my machine didn't put a message on the screen telling me to wait. All I got was a mouse pointer on a black screen. Don't panic. Just go get some coffee and come back in 10 minutes or so and you'll eventually have it installed.
-jeff!
Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 17, 2008, 11:23:11 pm --- :soapbox:
No excuse for not being legit. XP licenses are for one MACHINE not two, so if your PC was poopoo'd and had a license on the base, then off you go to the computer shop and buy an OEM version of XP. Tiny XP is just XP with a modified ISO that is stripped of all the baggage. Just saves you going to buy XP Lite and doing the trimming yourself, which I discourage and you should buy XP lite and have some fun learning to pull your hair out.
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Well as far as I’m concerned, there’s absolutely nothing morally wrong with re-installing XP if you’ve already paid for a copy but lost the original installation disks.
I suspect it's perfectly legal as well but to the best of my knowledge this issue has never actually been tested in court.
M$ might like to give the impression that they can put absolutely any conditions they want in their licence agreements, and that those conditions will always be legally enforceable, but it just doesn't work that way. Consumer laws are entirely different to the laws that govern contracts made between companies. Consumers enjoy a lot more protection because it's recognised that consumers generally haven't the time, inclination, or knowledge to scrutinise all the small print. If M$ tries to put clauses in their EULAs that attempt to override basic consumer laws then they’re on very shaky legal ground.