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Artist Order in album-type display
wwwombat:
I read through a few threads and am a little confused about the clusterings when using a non-titlestrip (i.e. album collections). Prior to this point I had been retagging all songs so that one and only one artist name appeared in the Track Artist, Album and Album Artist field (being overzealous and not knowing what Wincab used). This helps my aim of assembling the best of an artist's songs from multiple albums but have them appear as one logical album (i.e. I'm making my own "Greatest Hits Album" for each artist whether it contains 1, 2... or 20 songs)
With the recent discussions I decided to try something different to my normal tag protocol. Let's take Timbaland's recent "Shock Value" CD as an example. Almost all songs are credited to Timbaland featuring Someone.
In this case I have tagged each mp3 so that the Album and Album Artist fields are set to Timbaland (I was hoping Wincab used one of these for clustering) but the Track Artist is set to the full (i.e.) "Timbaland featuring Nelly Furtado & Justin Timberlake".
In this case, with jukebox.ini settings of SongSort = Artist, UseID3 = True and the default StrictAlbum1 = Greatest Hits, StrictAlbum2 = Original Motion Picture Soundtrack in use, I notice that following behaviour occurs (under the cd6-1-ws skin if it matters)
1) All songs are correctly assembled together under a first line of Timbaland (as was the case if the Artist was forced to be just Timbaland)
2) The Display of the Album Name(?) (it's the second line of this skin) is set to "Various Artists" (well... I guess with nowhere near 50% of the artists being the same since he has someone different helping him on each track, that's true).
3) In the individual song lists below this all of the full artist line for the track is depicted inside brackets (to the limitation of the skin) to the right of the track title. This is expected.
Now the kicker....
4) The album itself (on the pageflip displays) appears in the middle of the V listings (for Various Artists one presumes) rather than it appearing in its "correct" place in the T artists.
So, am I doing something wrong (either in tagging or some setting in jukebox.ini) or is some other magic at work?
Similarly, the "Grease" and "Rocky Horror Picture Show" albums, with each track having its own artists are correctly clustered but appear in the V/Various Artist section rather than the (respectively) G-based "Grease" and R-based "Rocky Horror Picture Show" to which I have set the "album" field in the MP3 tag.
Chris:
The albums are ordered by artist, not by album title. I thought I had implemented an album sort but I don't see it in the code.
wwwombat:
No... on a whim and a prayer I tried typing that in and it told me in no uncertain terms what to do with it ;)
I have the same problem with Grandmaster Flash. "The Message" is by "Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five" whereas "White Lines" is by "Grandmaster Flash featuring Melle Mel" and with the artists tagged as such (and the 50% threshold not being reached) the "album" ends up in the Various Artists section.
Given I want to retain the full artist line then I guess my only possible saviour is to tag the Album with the grouping of "Grandmaster Flash" and then hope that a future wincab iteration allows an album sort (...pretty, pretty please? :notworthy: )
Chris:
--- Quote from: wwwombat on January 13, 2008, 05:29:35 pm ---No... on a whim and a prayer I tried typing that in and it told me in no uncertain terms what to do with it ;)
I have the same problem with Grandmaster Flash. "The Message" is by "Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five" whereas "White Lines" is by "Grandmaster Flash featuring Melle Mel" and with the artists tagged as such (and the 50% threshold not being reached) the "album" ends up in the Various Artists section.
Given I want to retain the full artist line then I guess my only possible saviour is to tag the Album with the grouping of "Grandmaster Flash" and then hope that a future wincab iteration allows an album sort (...pretty, pretty please? :notworthy: )
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You know, I really thought I had implemented it... maybe the symbol just isn't there. Try setting SongSort=3.
wwwombat:
Ah... magic numbers.. gotta love 'em ;)
I only have a small test set of files here at work (so I'll retry when I get home tonight) but initial trials seems to accept a value of SongSort=3 and the albums are duly sorted in that order.
So, in that respect my albums (which I've forced to be the singular Artist) now display in the correct order. I might just alter the skin so that the artist name field (which can still therefore be set to Various Artists if the 50% threshold isn't reached is dropped, since it's superfluous for my purposes)
So, that'll do for now Chris (Ta!)... although I still look forward to 3.15 to test it and other goodies again.
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