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Jdurg:
One thing you have to keep in mind is that if aggressiveness and violent attacks are in the DNA of a creature, all the training in the world means nothing if the dog becomes ill or injured.  If a chihuhua(sp?) and a pitbull are both given the same obedience training and same domination routines by a competant owner, yet both dogs manage to come down with a cancer that causes them pain but shows no other outward symptoms, the pitbull is genetically more likely to lash out with a vicious attack than the chihuhua.  No training in the world can prevent that.

Is that likely to happen?  I can't tell since I don't know the cancer/illness rate in canines.  I'm just stating that training is very important and crucial to a well-behaved dog, but it won't remove what genetics has already put into place.

tommy:
I can agree with most of that, but who is not going to go crazy with  brain cancer.  ;D 

mpm32:

--- Quote from: Jouster on January 09, 2008, 01:26:18 pm ---
WTF...aren't you supposed to be posting in the cheesecake thread??  Get back to work!

Jouster

--- End quote ---

Oops, sorry back to the thread where I belong.   ;D

DrewKaree:

--- Quote from: tommy on January 09, 2008, 10:28:18 am ---I'm not defending myself  but I want you all to understand what is going on and it is more than meets the eye at first look.

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Incorrect.  You in fact ARE defending yourself.  You understand EVERYTHING about this, yet can't understand your inability to separate your SELF from the discussion and are clearly acting as if you're needing to defend yourself.  You're unable to see the argument clearly and as such, seem incapable of getting your actual point across WITHOUT it seeming as if you're doing exactly what Shardian stated.

Look for yourself.  You're all the proof you need:


--- Quote from: tommy on January 09, 2008, 10:17:14 am ---
This works, I am proof of it and would put my life down in front of this dog and he would for me.


--- End quote ---


You need to figure out some way to take SEVERAL steps back and look at the situation and reassess why you are seemingly "attacked" and your knee-jerk reaction to it.




--- Quote from: tommy on January 09, 2008, 12:27:54 pm ---The idiot is in control of the other car, as is the idiot letting his dog run wild.

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Maybe channeling Ziaouche can help you realize the problem with your own argument

 :dunno

tommy:
It's funny to see what you choose to quote from me and how you make it work for you.

I am constantly under attack because of my pit bull beliefs and I think you are not capable of even knowing what the hell you're talking about as a part-timer here these days.

If people want to continually attack pits I will be here continually defending them. End of story.

So many people here want to bad mouth these dogs at every turn and I'm not defending myself, I truly want others to see another point of view to break the habit of people hearing bad stories about these dogs and stop this crazy idea that they are all bad from going any further. All people hear are stories of this dog did this and that dog did that but maybe, just maybe if they can get an idea of the kind of person who may have owned these dogs that did this or that people may be able to put two and two together and see it was not really the dogs fault.

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