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Neighborhood problem turns violent
shardian:
--- Quote from: mpm32 on January 09, 2008, 09:44:20 am ---Here's the thing, if you have a large dog and you know in your heart that it has the tendency to bite, keeping it around is like having loaded gun laying around.
My wife and I got an Akita. Had him from a puppy. We researched the breed and learned their characteristics. They rarely bark, and will give little warning if they are going to attack. Not good if the dog is 120 lbs with a very powerful jaw.
Knowing this we took him to trainers and obedience school right from the beginning. We knew having a dog like this was a big responsibility.
He turned out to be a great dog until he was around 5 years old.
He started snapping and became really aggressive to me and my wife. Then he knocked my mother down and looked like he was going to bite her face. (Although she probably deserved it. ;))
Around this time we were thinking of having kids, and there were kids in the neighborhood. One day the little girl from next door came over to sell cookies or something and the dog almost got out and got her. I said to her father that we think we might have to put him down.
We called the Akita rescue group in NJ to see if there was anything we could do. They asked us the breeders name, looked them up and told us that almost every dog from that breeder had problems and had to be put down. Crappy dirtbag breeder.
When the neighbor told his wife that we were going to put him down, she came over and being an devout animal lover gave me the card of an obedience trainer and said we didn't have to put him down.
Boy was I pissed, it wasn't like we hadn't tried everything we could. Then I said, if he got out and attacked your kids, it would be your lawyers card you would be handing me instead of this card.
If he ever did get out and hurt someone I would not be able to live with myself since I knew he had the propensity to bite.
So, I took him and had him put down. One of the hardest things I had to do.
People need to take responsibility for their animals even if that means doing what's hard.
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Kudo's to you. Being a dog owner means alot more than filling a bowl with food and scooping poop. I bet that was very hard, but there really isn't much you can do for a dog with BRED social characteristics.
tommy:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on January 09, 2008, 01:41:36 am ---
--- Quote from: tommy on January 08, 2008, 02:36:20 pm ---
pits are the dog of choice to thugs and people who you wouldn't want owning a poodle let alone a bigger dog. People who like to see blood and death would have to pick a big dog with big teeth to do this.
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Not only are you NOT so stupid that you don't get WHY people "make distinctions", you are even capable of making the distinction yourself.
Why do you ACT stupid, when you clearly understand the point?
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Only the wrong people make this distinction when they choose to own these dogs, the people who are up to no good or are oblivious cause animals to attack.
There are 3 types of dog owners. One type is the regular owner who does not enforce any rules or boundaries with their animal and is really not in control of that situation and really does not know what it did wrong and was not looking for the dog to cause harm but it does anyway just by the owner not putting in enough time until the dog happens to bite someone, these people think the dog is born and nothing more is needed to ensure the dog is raised properly other than feeding it.
The second type of dog owner is not a dog owner at all, but is a person looking to make money off these dogs and only wants to see bad things happen and breed dogs to fight dogs. These dogs get loose and attack and bite anything it comes in contact with no matter what.
The third owner is a responsible person who knows about the bad rep and possible bad habits that were bread into the dog and take every precaution necessary to make sure the worst in that dog will never come to light by being strong with the dog, making sure the dog knows who is in control and giving it love. This works, I am proof of it and would put my life down in front of this dog and he would for me.
It is possible to make this sort of distinction about these dogs based of the owner of the dog, but real dog lovers and owners are not the ones letting these dogs get out of control and are NOT the ones who's dogs are attacking people. These people should not have to take the blame and be lumped in with the other two dog owner types.
With all that said, these rules and 3 dog owner types does not only apply to pit bulls but applies to any dog or animal a person could own. This could even apply to kids in some ways.
shardian:
Tommy, you are not on trial here. This is a specific case that is dealing with one of those guys who gives pit owners like you a bad name. If you are so worried about YOUR rep, why don't you join some action group that works to get these dogs out of the hands of bad owners, shuts down bad breeders, outs dog righting rings, etc. Sitting at your pc and ranting "my dog is good, so all of them are good, see!" doesn't accomplish anything.
tommy:
I'm not defending myself but I want you all to understand what is going on and it is more than meets the eye at first look.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: tommy on January 09, 2008, 10:17:14 am ---With all that said, these rules and 3 dog owner types does not only apply to pit bulls but applies to any dog or animal a person could own. This could even apply to kids in some ways.
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Yet the distinction still is that if a pit bull goes out of control that it maims or kills. If a poodle gets out of control it might put a tear in someones pants.
It's just like saying it's fine to drive 150mph on the highway since race car drivers can do this too. Obviously you don't solve this by making people drive slower you solve this by ... ehm yeah what?
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