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DrewKaree:

--- Quote from: tommy on January 08, 2008, 02:36:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: RayB on January 08, 2008, 11:54:23 am ---
(What is the f'n fascination for some people with owning pitbulls?

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Nothing is more fascinating about pits then any other dog to a dog lover. Why are you trying to make a distinction?

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Let's take a look, shall we?


--- Quote from: tommy on January 08, 2008, 02:36:20 pm ---
pits are the dog of choice to thugs and people who you wouldn't want owning a poodle let alone a bigger dog. People who like to see blood and death would have to pick a big dog with big teeth to do this.


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Not only are you NOT so stupid that you don't get WHY people "make distinctions", you are even capable of making the distinction yourself.

Why do you ACT stupid, when you clearly understand the point?

Was it just your knee-jerk reaction that caused you to misread "some people" as "ALL people"?

Try this next time.  Read what was posted.  Count to eleventy brazillion.  Read what was posted again.  Write down what you think was said.  Read what was posted again, and highlight words that lead you to believe you got the point.  Look at your interpretation of what was said, and see if any of the highlighted words match what your interpretation is.

You clearly haven't been able to match the highlighted words with what you believe has been said.

Not all dog owners suck.  The dog owners that are tops on the "SUCK!" column are the ones who mistreat their animals.  A close second are the dog owners that mischaracterize the point of people because they can't separate themselves in order to make sense of a discussion about the animals they clearly have discombobulated. ::)

DrewKaree:

--- Quote from: RayB on January 09, 2008, 12:55:15 am ---Tommy, would you feel the same if people walked around with Tigers, or bears, or any other wild beast?  Why so protective just because a particular animal falls into the "dog" category?

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If Tommy owned a tiger, bear, or any other wild beast, he certainly would. 

As an aside, and since this thread will get crapped up with pit bull talk anyway and I can't be bothered to find those threads ;D ,  if I have to jump through hoops just to own a lethal weapon to protect my family, then I see no problem with identical hoops being enacted for "dangerous animals".  In my state, there are such hoops for tigers/whatnot.  I'm for consistency.  Stick your nose in my business about a gun, then stick your nose in my business about a potentially lethal animal. 

If noses aren't put into my business about a potentially lethal animal, then take them out of my business about a potentially lethal object I choose to own.  Then I'll take threats against my family and deal with them in a manner that police and animal control are incapable of doing. 

Poor decision making by the shooter, but not entirely.  He simply made a choice for a potentially lethal animal owner who was apathetic towards such a decision or felt like Tommy, that "they could control the animal" ::)

AcidArmitage:
a while back on my street, 2 pitbulls started chasing a jogger and luckily a passerby in a car opened the door and let him in ( i wouldve ran over the ---daisies---). The owner of the dogs had to move because the 2 pitbulls had bitten someone before. What did he get this time? a $500 dollar fine. its crap.


Even if they ban the breed (Miami cant have pitbulls), They just declare that the dog is a mix... its crap. crap crap crap.

mpm32:
Here's the thing, if you have a large dog and you know in your heart that it has the tendency to bite, keeping it around is like having loaded gun laying around.

My wife and I got an Akita.  Had him from a puppy.  We researched the breed and learned their characteristics.  They rarely bark, and will give little warning if they are going to attack.  Not good if the dog is 120 lbs with a very powerful jaw.

Knowing this we took him to trainers and obedience school right from the beginning.  We knew having a dog like this was a big responsibility.

He turned out to be a great dog until he was around 5 years old.

He started snapping and became really aggressive to me and my wife.  Then he knocked my mother down and looked like he was going to bite her face. (Although she probably deserved it.  ;))

Around this time we were thinking of having kids, and there were kids in the neighborhood.  One day the little girl from next door came over to sell cookies or something and the dog almost got out and got her.  I said to her father that we think we might have to put him down.

We called the Akita rescue group in NJ to see if there was anything we could do.  They asked us the breeders name, looked them up and told us that almost every dog from that breeder had problems and had to be put down.  Crappy dirtbag breeder.

When the neighbor told his wife that we were going to put him down, she came over and being an devout animal lover gave me the card of an obedience trainer and said we didn't have to put him down.

Boy was I pissed, it wasn't like we hadn't tried everything we could.  Then I said, if he got out and attacked your kids, it would be your lawyers card you would be handing me instead of this card.

If he ever did get out and hurt someone I would not be able to live with myself since I knew he had the propensity to bite.

So, I took him and had him put down.  One of the hardest things I had to do.

People need to take responsibility for their animals even if that means doing what's hard.

lharles:

--- Quote from: mpm32 on January 09, 2008, 09:44:20 am ---Here's the thing, if you have a large dog and you know in your heart that it has the tendency to bite, keeping it around is like having loaded gun laying around.

My wife and I got an Akita.  Had him from a puppy.  We researched the breed and learned their characteristics.  They rarely bark, and will give little warning if they are going to attack.  Not good if the dog is 120 lbs with a very powerful jaw.

Knowing this we took him to trainers and obedience school right from the beginning.  We knew having a dog like this was a big responsibility.

He turned out to be a great dog until he was around 5 years old.

He started snapping and became really aggressive to me and my wife.  Then he knocked my mother down and looked like he was going to bite her face. (Although she probably deserved it.  ;))

Around this time we were thinking of having kids, and there were kids in the neighborhood.  One day the little girl from next door came over to sell cookies or something and the dog almost got out and got her.  I said to her father that we think we might have to put him down.

We called the Akita rescue group in NJ to see if there was anything we could do.  They asked us the breeders name, looked them up and told us that almost every dog from that breeder had problems and had to be put down.  Crappy dirtbag breeder.

When the neighbor told his wife that we were going to put him down, she came over and being an devout animal lover gave me the card of an obedience trainer and said we didn't have to put him down.

Boy was I pissed, it wasn't like we hadn't tried everything we could.  Then I said, if he got out and attacked your kids, it would be your lawyers card you would be handing me instead of this card.

If he ever did get out and hurt someone I would not be able to live with myself since I knew he had the propensity to bite.

So, I took him and had him put down.  One of the hardest things I had to do.

People need to take responsibility for their animals even if that means doing what's hard.

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I logged in after reading what you wrote just to say thanks for the story.  You painted a nice picture textually and made a point at the same time.  Good stuff.  :)

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