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Neighborhood problem turns violent
shardian:
--- Quote from: tommy on January 15, 2008, 02:27:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: shardian on January 15, 2008, 02:20:27 pm ---
So what else do you expect people in my situation to do other than get frustrated, get angry, try to relieve the owner of the dog they can't care for?
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Just don't blame the dog.
Now everyone here is saying they agree that it's the bad owners and it is not the dogs fault anymore? This was not the case 3 or 4 pages ago.
I don't have all the answers, all I was saying is that the dogs are not at fault and if we can agree on that then all is good for me in this argument as that was my point from the start. If by me posting here many times has finally got you to understand that part, then that's great, that is my contribution to making people realize what is and what is not the problem.
If it makes you happy then I'll have to agree and say, yes, make pit bull owners from now on have to be trained and people need to know that they are not buying a dog as a toy and that they intend on following through with this dog till it dies.
Other than that, we can't change the past and probably not even the present, all we can do is change the future of pit bull owners.
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For the most part yes, it is the owner. There are still more than a few Pit Bulls ( and plenty of other dangerous breeds - don't want to single any one out now) out there that are just plain born with bad behavioral issues. That debate will always be a stalemate because some people (not naming any names) simply refuse to believe that these behavioral problems exist from the beginning and are not curable. They can only hope to be contained or redirected for as long a possible.
ChadTower:
The only assumption I can make from tommy's post, since he will not actually answer the question, is that he finds a certain amount of attacks acceptable. He did say that he finds it unfair that he would have to lose his dog... but did not say that it is unfair that innocent people are getting mauled.
shardian:
--- Quote from: tommy on January 15, 2008, 02:36:06 pm ---What do you want from me? All I can speak on is what responsible owners do and I can't tell you how to change the world so that everyone on earth does not have to deal with losers. What I can tell you is that it is not fair for good people with good dogs to have to give up there dog based on what some other guys dog did because that guy does not give two shits about him, his kids, let alone a dog. It is also not fair that good people have to run into bad people with bad dogs and they have to get injured or die because of it. This is why this is such a hot topic, we must find a way to make everyone happy.
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Quote from Abraham Lincoln:
--- Quote --- You can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but NEVER all of the people all of the time.
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Learn it, like it, or deal with it if you are on the losing side.
tommy:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on January 15, 2008, 02:39:32 pm ---The only assumption I can make from tommy's post, since he will not actually answer the question, is that he finds a certain amount of attacks acceptable. He did say that he finds it unfair that he would have to lose his dog... but did not say that it is unfair that innocent people are getting mauled.
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--- Quote from: tommy on January 15, 2008, 02:36:06 pm ---What do you want from me? All I can speak on is what responsible owners do and I can't tell you how to change the world so that everyone on earth does not have to deal with losers. What I can tell you is that it is not fair for good people with good dogs to have to give up there dog based on what some other guys dog did because that guy does not give two shits about him, his kids, let alone a dog. It is also not fair that good people have to run into bad people with bad dogs and they have to get injured or die because of it. This is why this is such a hot topic, we must find a way to make everyone happy.
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Reread.
ChadTower:
Ah, yes, for once, rereading a tommy post did help.
tommy's solution is to not solve it.
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