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tommy:
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 14, 2008, 09:47:29 pm ---50% of the people who got killed by a pit bull were the victim of a dog that never did anything wrong before.
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And were never treated and trained to get the potential problem out of the dog, this goes for all dogs. Just having a dog in the house that never did anything wrong is not the way to train a dog, this is just doing nothing and having a dog around, not a responsible owner, atleast not for pits. Steps need to be taken from the owner beyond feeding and providing a place to sleep.
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 14, 2008, 09:47:29 pm ---
You can blah blah about being in control all you want, but these are animals. You can NEVER be in complete control of an animal.
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I'm an animal, you're an animal too, can you say for sure what I'm going to do in any situation? Does it matter if I was loved and explained as a child what is right or wrong, does it matter if I was not treated well as a child? Do these things make a person better or worse in any situation? Yes.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: tommy on January 14, 2008, 09:57:15 pm ---I'm an animal, you're an animal too, can you say for sure what I'm going to do in any situation?
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Pretty much, yeah ... but that's why I'm the Swami ...
tommy:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 14, 2008, 10:00:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: tommy on January 14, 2008, 09:57:15 pm ---I'm an animal, you're an animal too, can you say for sure what I'm going to do in any situation?
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Pretty much, yeah ... but that's why I'm the Swami ...
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Some of us are more of an animal than others. ;)
patrickl:
--- Quote from: tommy on January 14, 2008, 09:57:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 14, 2008, 09:47:29 pm ---50% of the people who got killed by a pit bull were the victim of a dog that never did anything wrong before.
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And were never treated and trained to get the potential problem out of the dog, this goes for all dogs. Just having a dog in the house that never did anything wrong is not the way to train a dog, this is just doing nothing and having a dog around, not a responsible owner, atleast not for pits. Steps need to be taken from the owner beyond feeding and providing a place to sleep.
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That is just your uninformed opinion against the cold hard facts that these dogs are one of a very few breeds that have a high risk of killing people.
Even if what you say is true then the risk that someone gets it wrong is obviously so great that these dogs are still not fit to be kept out of a cage.
Why is it that only people who own pits and rottweilers mistreat their dogs so badly that just about only those types of dogs go about killing and maiming people?
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--- Quote from: patrickl on January 14, 2008, 09:47:29 pm ---
You can blah blah about being in control all you want, but these are animals. You can NEVER be in complete control of an animal.
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I'm an animal, you're an animal too, can you say for sure what I'm going to do in any situation? Does it matter if I was loved and explained as a child what is right or wrong, does it matter if I was not treated well as a child? Do these things make a person better or worse in any situation? Yes.
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No. Animals can still do something unexpected even if they have been treated perfectly all their life
More importantly, a dog can be annoyed because it was subjected to loud noises, because it's sick or because it feels threatened or whatever. In that state of mind it can do something completely unexpected and attack.
tommy:
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 14, 2008, 10:06:01 pm ---
Why is it that only people who own pits and rottweilers mistreat their dogs so badly that just about only those types of dogs go about killing and maiming people?
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That's just it, maybe they mistreat the dog or maybe they don't. The main thing is that they DID NOTHING to prevent an attack. People think dogs are toys and are something fun to have around that they do not have to do anything with or take responsibility for until they find out something bad went down. People think having a dog requires no action on their part and that it is a toy for their amusement.
The dogs are big, yes, a bad poodle owner's dog is not going to have to worry about his dog doing a lot of damage, yes. A bad pit owner has more to worry about, yes, the bigger they are the harder they fall.
I think I'm starting to not want to talk about pit bulls anymore, please do not respond anymore. ;)
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