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New user of DWjuke and I love it! But I also have some questions

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quarterback:
What a great program.   I had looked at it (WinCab/DosCab) but was kind of turned off by the "singles" style of setup in the default skin.  I was interested in an album-based layout and thought that WinCab just wasn't for me.   

So, I just got my 15" ELO touch screen and decided to delve back into the jukebox thing and quickly realized just how skinnable this thing is.   I'm currently using cddrd which I really like.  I was torn between that skin and the CD4-# skins, but the skin graphics on cddrd are more appealling to me.   However, with over 1300 "albums", only having 2 cds to a screen is going to cause me problems.  Which brings me to my series of questions

- I'm looking for a skin like cddrd but with more albums per screen.  I'd also like a "skip" button and a "pause" button and could do without the "select" button since it seems to simply work by itself anyway.  Anybody around here want to take a whack at modding this skin for me :)

- Is there a way to scan through the alphabet?  I read something somewhere about advancing alphabetically, so maybe my best option would be to add buttons that advance one letter at a time?   

- I also read a post where somebody requested that you coulc click a button and one skin would replace the other, so you could go from one "view" of the cd covers to a closer view with the track listings (or something like that).  I would love to see that option because it would also help me solve my current issue of album-overload

- I'm not sure I understand how the software decides what's an "album" and what is not.  I have some "genre" folders full of songs by a bunch of artists.  Most of the songs in those folders are assigned their own "album" with 1 or 2 tracks in it.  But other mp3s in those folders seem to be combined into compilation albums named whatever the folder is named.  How does the database make those decisions?


Thanks for a great app, Chris.   And happy 2008 to everybody!
qb

ebateman21:
Perhaps you'd be interested in this modified version of my CDBox2 skin. I added a pause button, a skip button, and a button to control radio mode (free play).

I left the select and clear buttons. I don't know how well the numbers will work on a 15" monitor, and select and clear would be useful for correcting mistakes. You might be interested in requiring a selection button push (the control is in the jukebox.ini file, under AutoSelect).

I could probably add a few next alpha buttons as well if you were interested.

Feel free to browse all of my skins here: http://web.newsguy.com/ebateman21/wincab/index.htm


cdbox2a.zip



ebateman21

quarterback:
You ROCK ebateman! :notworthy:

Love it.    I did some tweaking (I linked the radio button to the "esc" key, so I could easily shut down the program as I was testing) and then turned the select key into alphabet forward.   

My biggest problem is having over a thousand "albums".  It just makes it pretty difficult to deal with without a 'search' or multiple-layout setup like blah69 suggests here.  But I love the way it looks and functions and your skin pretty much hits the spot

I also need to figure out exactly how it's dealing with all my random songs.  I guess I could go through and retag them all so it wouldn't create albums with only one or two songs.   I'm going to mess around with the non-ID3 tag option and see if I can get a better organized database.

Thanks again ebateman, and if you want to add some alpha button graphics for me, I wouldn't complain   ;D

I don't really need the "radio" button either.  I'm leaving this thing on free play and just going from there.   
Thanks again!

Chris:
ebateman beat me to the punch on most of it, but I cabn answer this:


--- Quote from: quarterback on January 01, 2008, 05:13:22 am ---- I'm not sure I understand how the software decides what's an "album" and what is not.  I have some "genre" folders full of songs by a bunch of artists.  Most of the songs in those folders are assigned their own "album" with 1 or 2 tracks in it.  But other mp3s in those folders seem to be combined into compilation albums named whatever the folder is named.  How does the database make those decisions?

--- End quote ---

If id3 tags are enabled (as they are by default), the program looks at the Album part of the id3 tag; if no data is present in that field, it should assign an album name called "Singles".  If the tags are not enabled, it uses the name of the folder IF the folder is more than one level away from the root of the search.  The assumption is that if the song is in a folder right off the root, then the folder is likely the name of the artist.  If it is more than one level down, it assumes the folder name is the album and the one above it is the artist.  Does that make any sense?

quarterback:

--- Quote from: Chris on January 02, 2008, 02:54:12 pm ---
- If id3 tags are enabled (as they are by default), the program looks at the Album part of the id3 tag;

- if no data is present in that field, it should assign an album name called "Singles". 

-If the tags are not enabled, it uses the name of the folder IF the folder is more than one level away from the root of the search. 

The assumption is that if the song is in a folder right off the root, then the folder is likely the name of the artist.  If it is more than one level down, it assumes the folder name is the album and the one above it is the artist.  Does that make any sense?
--- End quote ---

I think my folder structure might be confusing things (it's certainly confusing me! :))

I have a number of genre folders within my main mp3 folder, but basically it's laid out like this :
mp3s > Heavy Metal > bunch of individual songs AND album folders

Everything is ID tagged (although I won't promise that every single song has every single tag filled in).    The full-albums that I have are all in their own folders within each genre folder.   Those seem to work out fine.  The problem exists with all the individual songs within the genre folders. 

For example, in the Heavy Metal folder I have 36 album folders (full of entire albums) but in the Heavy Metal folder I also have 150 individual songs and this is where things get funky.

Most of those individual songs end up having "albums" created for them within DWJukebox.  Unfortunately, since there might only be two songs from any given album, I end up with a bunch of 2-song albums.    The thing that confuses me is that OTHER songs from those individual files end up being part of some "Various Artists" album compilations within DWJukebox.   

I've done some cursory (but ONLY cursory) investigation to look into the ID tags for the songs that end up being put into the "Various artist albums", but I haven't been able to determine why only those songs are put into "Various Artist albums" while the other individual songs are put into their own albums.   

The songs that get put into the DWJukebox "Various Artist" albums are NOT tagged as being "Various Artists", so this is some determination that DWJuke is making.  I'm just not sure how it's making the determination between which individual song gets its own album and which individual song gets put into a various artist compilation.

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