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| AllisterFiend:
--- Quote from: RandyT on January 05, 2008, 11:42:33 am --- --- Quote from: whammoed on January 03, 2008, 01:23:31 pm --- --- Quote from: whammoed on January 03, 2008, 12:50:22 pm ---Screw audio jack into end of stick. Use right angle audio cable: --- End quote --- I think slikstik was the first to do it. --- End quote --- They were the first to offer a product based on the idea, but the idea was presented to them by one of the "old timers" on this board. A search of the archives shows that SS's original intention for those was rotation restriction until they were turned on to this idea. --- Quote ---Also: Don't put the button on top. Top fire sucks. Put the button on the "side/front" of the balltop. --- End quote --- While that might be good specifically for the games using the button, would it not also be more cumbersome for the games that didn't use it? My thoughts are that it would be, but I'd be interested in hearing opinions on the subject. RandyT --- End quote --- I've been waiting for top fires for a long time (fingers crossed). I used them for years when wico made them (the bat handle and the ball top) and I loved them, I had no problems with the button being on top and would love to see some joysticks based off of the old wico styles or even the newer ultra stik 360 bat handle style. Allister Fiend |
| Havok:
How about a small wireless transmitter, with a button cell mounted in the balltop? Mount the receiver in the base wherever it would not interfere with the joystick operation, or mounting. In fact, using this design, it would be possible to create a kit to retrofit an older U360, or just make it an optional accessory. You could probably hack something together from one of those spy shops that sell miniature transmitters\receivers... |
| MinerAl:
Three Ideas: * Make trigger sleeves. The button/trigger could be on a plastic sleeve that slides over the shaft, but is rotationally independent of it. The ball & shaft can spin and twirl, but the sleeve can use a tab that matches a notch in the top plate of the stick (which would force surface mount, maybe) to keep from spinning. The only trick then is to route the wires out the side of the stick somewhere. * Could an insulated double shaft (like a phone plug with a shaft and a tip) be used? Then you could run the button signal down the shaft itself, which would make for easier connection inside the stick. * Finally, I don't have the paint skills to illustrate this idea, but couldn't there be a stabilizer bar that went from a notch on one side of the inside of the stick, through the shaft? The notch would need to allow the stabilizer bar to move in and out as well as forward and back. It would keep the shaft from spinning though. I'll have to figure out how to illustrate it, but it is similar to a car's U-joint in the drive shaft if it is bent 90°... you could still wiggle either end, but you couldn't spin it. |
| LeedsFan:
--- Quote from: Havok on January 05, 2008, 11:03:36 pm ---How about a small wireless transmitter, with a button cell mounted in the balltop? Mount the receiver in the base wherever it would not interfere with the joystick operation, or mounting. In fact, using this design, it would be possible to create a kit to retrofit an older U360, or just make it an optional accessory. You could probably hack something together from one of those spy shops that sell miniature transmitters\receivers... --- End quote --- I never really thought of this at all. But the transmitter would have to be really small. How small can a one button transmitter be? Would have to be a lithium battery type powered one. And how could you get that into the top half of a 35mm ball top? Very interesting idea though. Is this possible? |
| Beley:
How about using a magnet inside the shaft that moves up and down when the button is pushed, and using a hall effect sensor the sense the position of the magnet. (see first image) I am not to sure how much the shaft would shield the magnet from the sensor. or, as Havok said, use a small wireless transmitter. but an IR transmitter insted of RF. with a IR photo detector on the underside of the stick. (see 2nd image) |
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