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CCM:

--- Quote from: tommy on December 27, 2007, 11:36:08 am ---Well that link helps me more than it hurts me. I never said rely on DNA only, but it does show very good proof when a person who said they have nothing to do with a crime and has left his DNA behind in a place that does not seem to be right can prove a lot.

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Your logic (or lack thereof) makes my head hurt...   :banghead:

CCM:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on December 27, 2007, 11:39:28 am ---A very, very large group that probably includes Jeremy Shockey.

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 :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

tommy:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on December 27, 2007, 11:39:28 am ---They can't say "he left his DNA behind".  They can say "someone with a DNA profile like his left DNA behind".  Look at the numbers.  All it does is prove that someone in a group that also includes the defendant was involved.  A very, very large group.

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A large group? I heard cases where they said the error was 1 in 3 million of another person having the same DNA.

I can't believe I have to argue such a rare finger pint of a person as DNA is to you guys. It's not like the guy around the block from you will match your DNA. It's like maybe 4 people in the world would show some similarities to your DNA but still never really match.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: tommy on December 27, 2007, 11:43:27 am ---A large group? I heard cases where they said the error was 1 in 3 million of another person having the same DNA.

I can't believe I have to argue such a rare finger pint of a person as DNA is to you guys. It's not like the guy around the block from you will match your DNA. It's like maybe 4 people in the world would show some similarities to your DNA but still never really match.

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Do the reading I suggested on just how much of a DNA profile they can pull in most cases.  They aren't usually pulling anything close to that level of a DNA strand.  They're pulling partial strands from old, damaged, or poor type sources in order to eliminate people, not to specifically incriminate an individual.

tommy:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on December 27, 2007, 11:45:57 am ---
--- Quote from: tommy on December 27, 2007, 11:43:27 am ---A large group? I heard cases where they said the error was 1 in 3 million of another person having the same DNA.

I can't believe I have to argue such a rare finger pint of a person as DNA is to you guys. It's not like the guy around the block from you will match your DNA. It's like maybe 4 people in the world would show some similarities to your DNA but still never really match.

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Do the reading I suggested on just how much of a DNA profile they can pull IN MOST CASES. 

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Your argument is based on times when they cannot get a good DNA sample. This means nothing to me. This is your way out of not agreeing and seeing I'm right.

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