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china announces new regional jet
SavannahLion:
--- Quote from: tommy on December 22, 2007, 01:31:42 pm ---That may be true in part, but they are hurting their own people just the same with these products, surly not hurting people in general is a requirement no matter where you are.
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It is generally no manufacturers responsibility. Generally, it takes an act of Congress to make things safer, and even then, it doesn't always happen. Historically, the U.S. is equally guilty of disregarding safety regarding employees, consumers, and the environment. There are so many instances of U.S. manufacturers blatantly disregarding our safety that it's not possible to keep track of them all.
Google Ralph Nader for all the laws he helped pass for automobile safety. I don't have any proof, but I'm a little ticked he probably had something to do with getting rid of the fabled rumble seat. On an aside, landfill operators actually lobbied against the introduction of air bags.
The Rail is notarious for the massive encroachments on our safety and health and we're still paying for it to this very day. In my city, there is a rail yard where they used to dump whatever down a hole in the ground. Anything lying around, they didn't want, went down this hole. Mercury, lead, paint, thinner, anything and everything. It's been sitting there for years with no one willing to purchase the property. They used to have coal stoves in the luxury wood cars (fire hazard). The much safer and faster modern railcar hitch was invented years before the Rails would ever implment them.
The white posphor used in (old style) matches is toxic, causing posphor jaw and, by some accounts, glowing skin (don't ask, I don't know, yes, I've read the reports). In many countries, it would take the passing of laws before red posphor matches would be accepted. In the U.S. I've heard it took a Presidental request to allow U.S. manufacturers to leverage the patents.
I have a report buried somewhere in my files that talks about a once popular boat no longer manufacturered today... actually the boat is no longer in use and I can't find jack ---Cleveland steamer--- about it in any museum. In any case, the engine assembly was exposed and a cable threaded through. In many cases the cable had to be manually guided through this assembly and people used to get caught up and fed through as well.
Even today U.S. companies will knowingly put our lives at risk. It's all about the money. Ever watch Fight Club? How does that equation go? If the number of claims costs more than that of a recall then they'll do the recall. But, if the claims cost less than the recall, they won't do the recall. Wow.... that's in the interest of our safety.
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on December 22, 2007, 09:03:05 am ---I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "leaps and bounds." ??? This just seems like another one of China's programs to gain independence from foreign manufacturers. They do this all the time. Cars, cell phones, software, all sorts of stuff. They're like this little island of pseudo-independent researchers... when they're honest. ::)
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oh, i wasn't being sarcastic or anything. i'm actually quite excited about the tech stuff china is doing. not too long ago they were riding around on their bicycles holding their little red books. now they have plans for moon missions and stuff. it's really cool. such a large nation should be at this sort of level, and they've come out of the back of the pack. people talk about india somehow being a competitor to china. meh! they've got lots of people, and that's about it. the only thing they can out-compete china with is annoying telemarketers ;)
oh, and patrick, that plane you were in was probably a boeing right?
edited for lousy spelling
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: tommy on December 22, 2007, 11:37:44 am ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on December 22, 2007, 07:58:19 am ---
--- Quote from: tommy on December 22, 2007, 06:36:21 am ---Now all they need to do is stop shipping us harmful products.
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all you have to do is stop buying them ;)
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It's just like him to make a comment like that and then run away. Maybe he should stick to collecting N64 stuff and not talk about these sorts of things.
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well, it was pretty self-explanatory. but yeah, what savannah said ;D
--- Quote from: tommy on December 22, 2007, 01:31:42 pm ---That may be true in part, but they are hurting their own people just the same with these products, surly not hurting people in general is a requirement no matter where you are.
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the chinese government have been getting better at that sort of thing. they've started a program to encourage people to be more aware of food safety for instance. simple things like looking at used by dates are a foreign concept for many there at the moment. they are encouraging people to be vigilant about dodgy manufacturers of food too. this will work (although one of the reasons i dont agree with). if a company kills people with dodgy food products, the ceo potentially faces the death penalty...
markrvp:
That jet must be really heavy being made of lead instead of aluminum/titanium you know. ;D
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: markrvp on December 23, 2007, 09:07:53 am ---That jet must be really heavy being made of lead instead of aluminum/titanium you know. ;D
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