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RayB:
I try to stay out of this BS these days, but ill say this anyways:
The problem with this "abstinence" idea is that if you live in an area where society largely expects it of you (the teen), you won't dare risk going to buy condoms for fear of being seen by someone you know, and/or avoiding the judgement of even strangers (cashier/anyone else in the store).
So then "in the heat" of it, as much as they may try and want to abstain... IF it happens, well, your kid who's been preached and guilted to abstain won't have any protection for that slip-up. You're indirectly causing the risk problems that come from unprotected teen sex.
Heck they don't even need to be in an area that's heavily promoting abstinence, they just have to be part of a group, such as a church. That's enough to create this guilt and they won't dare attempt to get protection. The decision and act of publicly buying a condom would be like crossing the line and making that decision to have sex (and announcing to the world--well, the world at the store) so they won't do it. It's way more responsible to get "insurance", and still preaching for them to wait as long as possible. But the abstinence camp doesn't see it that way. Give out free condoms and it's "Oh noes! That gives them permission!". No it doesn't. No more than buying car insurance tells people to go out and wreck their cars.
ChadTower:
...plus a lot of teenagers don't have the money to buy condoms. That was a bigger problem in my area than being seen buying them.
lanman31337:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on December 24, 2007, 01:07:55 pm ---
...plus a lot of teenagers don't have the money to buy condoms. That was a bigger problem in my area than being seen buying them.
--- End quote ---
Clinics give them away for free, and you can buy a 2 pack for under 2 dollars in a gas station.
Jdurg:
http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
This site lists the age of sexual consent for every state in the USA and many countries across the world. If she got knocked up in Lousianna at the age of 16, then technically she was raped.
However, I am not in agreement with the whole "you were 18 when she was 16" type of garbage. I think the years should be used to determine when to file charges, but it shouldn't be a hard set, no thought used type of crime. To say that a girl who is 16 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds old is completely different from a girl who is one second older is a bit crazy to me. This is why hard set ages are ridiculous and should not be used in a court of law.
In addition, if the male in this case was one second short of being 18 then no charges would be filed. Yet one second later when he turns 18 he can suddenly be thrown in jail for a good part of his life and be forced to register as a sex offender. Tell me how "proper" that is!
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: lanman31337 on December 24, 2007, 01:24:58 pm ---Clinics give them away for free, and you can buy a 2 pack for under 2 dollars in a gas station.
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There are lots of places where there aren't any clinics, just hospitals. Most teens would never know you could get them for free at a place like that, anyway, because school personnel aren't allowed to tell them. I remember a couple of kids I knew getting busted shoplifting them at a CVS near our school because they didn't have the money. Things are probably easier now.
They definitely weren't anything like less than a dollar each when I was in high school. I haven't bought them since the mid 90s but they weren't that cheap then either.
Heh, I remember when I got to college they were being given away by the handful right on the street. That seemed cool at the time until I found out the hard way that cheap condoms break really easily. Nothing happened, got lucky, but lesson learned the scary way.
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