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Anyone have an autistic child?
ChadTower:
Interesting bit of news
CheffoJeffo:
Comments like those thrown by PBJ are the exact reason that I tell people to take all of the things you hear regarding autism with a grain of salt. If you buy a book solely because Oprah mentions it on her show, then perhaps his style of commentary is for you.
Me, I actually prefer some degree of rigour in the underlying science and I prefer that those who draw conclusions actually have some degree of expertise.
But what do I know ?
"Incurable after the fact" is the diagnosis that we receive from a guy who I probably wouldn't trust to fix the tilt sensor on my F2K ... and now he renders ridiculous assessments out of the air, based on his day job pushing other people's papers in academia ?
Done much research in neurological development, have we PBJ ?
Chad, who sometimes seems to be an expert in every field imaginable to man, even has to good sense to not draw any conclusions from the sounds bites in this one ..
BTW, Chad -- yep, I am 99% certain on him.
ChadTower:
I'm not surprised.
That clip was really only "news" in that it appeared on a news website. Still, anything that brings some positive looking progress, is worth trying. You have to remember that in many ways the brain grows in the first couple of years according to the stimulation it receives. This does have some small potential in that with the proper therapy, early enough, maybe the path can be altered in some kids. Of course, early detection and intervention has been known to be a major key for a long time now.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on December 17, 2007, 07:03:27 pm --- This does have some small potential in that with the proper therapy, early enough, maybe the path can be altered in some kids. Of course, early detection and intervention has been known to be a major key for a long time now.
--- End quote ---
FWIW, I think this has HUGE potential ... where PBJ thinks that it is incurable (perhaps nobody mentioned to him what other class of people also exhibits abnormal brain growth in the same areas) ... that's why I didn't object so much to the story (IMPO, the science is still somewhat spotty given the age of the "big brain" revelation).
You are 190% right on with the early intervention ... I do hope that this can translate into that intervention (they don't mention in the story, but I believe that the "90%" number they quoted was not determined with a level of rigour that would be required ... hence the need for further study).
My objection is to the conclusion that PBJ draws with his normal scientific acumen ... based on no knowledge and tied to no thread of reason.
CheffoJeffo:
You see, PBJ, you seem to be thinking along a specific line -- physically altering the brain.
You don't seem to have any concept of other ways of dealing with these, so you made a blanket statement that is, in a word, wrong.
You clearly don't have even the first clue that would be required to make such a statement, yet you do it anyway.
In your world, we would just have to write off autistic kids, stroke victims, etc ... however many excellent therapies exist AND WORK for these people.
Just because YOU don't know anything about them doesn't mean that they don't exist, so I once again observe that your statement is pretty much ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.
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