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MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: brandon on November 16, 2007, 01:36:38 pm ---well see.. I lived in Florida for 15 years.. right on the Gulf... You could easily go to the county pier and buy some bait.  Shrimp, squid, whatever..  It was in little bags or plastic containers.  You could walk out the door with bait in your hand.. but there was no trap.  So there ya go.. you CAN have bait without a trap.  You can put it on a hook.   I hook is not a trap is it?  The fish isnt cornered.  He's out in the wide open ocean but he just can't resist coming up to take a bite :D

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First of all, yes, a hook is a trap. And you are confused with the difference between something (like worms) being called "bait" because it is being sold or otherwise acquired for use as bait; and actually using something as bait. To use something as bait, there must be a trap. If there is no trap, the "bait" is simply free food.


--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 16, 2007, 01:40:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on November 16, 2007, 01:28:23 pm ---And do you seriously think that there can be "bait" without a trap? If so, you clearly don't understand the concept of "bait."
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There sure can be... we used to set out bait for bears back home all the time... mostly to lure them away from the places we didn't want them to be.  No traps, just bait.


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You were simply feeding the bears. If you'd intended to wait for them in the place you set the food in order to shoot them, then it would have been bait.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on November 16, 2007, 02:29:37 pm ---You were simply feeding the bears. If you'd intended to wait for them in the place you set the food in order to shoot them, then it would have been bait.

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Erm, no... we were luring them away from specific places by using bait to direct them elsewhere. 

FWIW, bears love broken Nintendo joysticks, works every time.

SavannahLion:

--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on November 16, 2007, 01:28:23 pm ---And do you seriously think that there can be "bait" without a trap? If so, you clearly don't understand the concept of "bait."

I know that you are easily confused so I should point out that you can have a trap without bait.

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Others have pointed out the concept of bait without a trap. Other instances of baits without traps are photographing wild animals and flea dusting wild rodents. If your self proclaimed vast resource of knowledge lacks the understanding of what photography and flea powder has to do with bait, feel free to ask.

I know that you are insistent in misinterpreting your confusion as my own, so I'll point out that your conceptualization of "trap" and "bait" are incomplete and therefor flawed. I strongly suggest you reconsider renewing your education on simple matters such as this.

MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 16, 2007, 02:31:39 pm ---
Erm, no... we were luring them away from specific places by using bait to direct them elsewhere. 

FWIW, bears love broken Nintendo joysticks, works every time.

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That's just called a "reward". People do it with dogs all the time:

"Come here Fido!"

(dog ignores command)

"Come here Fido!" *holds a dog biscuit*

(dog obeys command)

brandon:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 16, 2007, 02:31:39 pm ---FWIW, bears love broken Nintendo joysticks, works every time.

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If you set them on fire they can smell it from miles away ;)

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