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BTN_NEXTALPHA / BTN_PREVALPHA

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blah69:
I agree that the next Alpha is critical to anyone with a large music collection.  Any thought on adding a "alpha" slider on a cd skin, like in the picture below?

Chris:
I am working on adding a "slider" control type, but it would be based on absolute page, not alphabet.  However, I can probably make an alphabet version too, although I'm not sure how the display would work.

Chris:
There's another issue here, part of the reason things are done the way they are.  Imagine the following pages:

Pg 1:
Dancing Queen - ABBA
Mamma Mia - ABBA
Look of Love - ABC
All that She Wants - Ace of Base

Pg 2:
Walk This Way - Aerosmith
Cryin' - Aerosmith
Under My Wheels - Alice Cooper
Every Heartbeat - Amy Grant

Pg 3:
Baby Baby - Amy Grant
Manic Monday - The Bangles
Help - The Beatles
Reflection - Christina Aguilera

Pg 4:
Since You're Gone - The Cars
Drive - The Cars
My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
Accidentally in Love - Counting Crows

Pg 5:
Come On Eileen - Dexy's Midnight Runners
Hotel California - The Eagles
There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck
Drowned - Entombed



As currently implemented, pressing NextAlpha on page 1 will go straight to page 4.  With the suggested change, pressing NextAlpha goes to page 3.  But what does pressing it again do?  Does it go to page 5 (the last artist on 3 is a C, and the next change is the D on 5) or stay on page 3 (moving strictly from A to B) and then stay on 3 for the next press (strictly from B to C), only changing to 5 after the third press on one page?

To be honest, NONE of these options "feels" right to me, which is of course why I almost scrapped the feature entirely.

Any thoughts?  What would you expect pressing NextAlpha to do on the above set of pages?

--Chris

blah69:

--- Quote from: Chris on November 28, 2007, 08:10:59 pm ---There's another issue here, part of the reason things are done the way they are.  Imagine the following pages:

Pg 1:
Dancing Queen - ABBA
Mamma Mia - ABBA
Look of Love - ABC
All that She Wants - Ace of Base

Pg 2:
Walk This Way - Aerosmith
Cryin' - Aerosmith
Under My Wheels - Alice Cooper
Every Heartbeat - Amy Grant

Pg 3:
Baby Baby - Amy Grant
Manic Monday - The Bangles
Help - The Beatles
Reflection - Christina Aguilera

Pg 4:
Since You're Gone - The Cars
Drive - The Cars
My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
Accidentally in Love - Counting Crows

Pg 5:
Come On Eileen - Dexy's Midnight Runners
Hotel California - The Eagles
There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck
Drowned - Entombed



As currently implemented, pressing NextAlpha on page 1 will go straight to page 4.  With the suggested change, pressing NextAlpha goes to page 3.  But what does pressing it again do?  Does it go to page 5 (the last artist on 3 is a C, and the next change is the D on 5) or stay on page 3 (moving strictly from A to B) and then stay on 3 for the next press (strictly from B to C), only changing to 5 after the third press on one page?

To be honest, NONE of these options "feels" right to me, which is of course why I almost scrapped the feature entirely.

Any thoughts?  What would you expect pressing NextAlpha to do on the above set of pages?

--Chris



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I would think it would do the second one.  This only becomes a problem if you have a very small collection (I suppose it could come into play on "Q", "X" or "Z").  I see more of an issue with "#" and "Various Artists" listings.  Right now mine reads all of those as different and it takes like 6 or 7 clicks to get through all of them.

wwwombat:
IMHO, pressing NEXTALPHA should first look at the last song represented on the page since that is the last song my eyes should alight on before turning the page.

Using this character as the starting point it should shift to the next letter in sequence.

In your example, starting from page 1 (A's) you shift to page 3 because it happens to contain the first artist beginning with B i.e.

Baby Baby - Amy Grant
Manic Monday - The Bangles
Help - The Beatles
Reflection - Christina Aguilera

However it just so happens that it also contains the first artist beginning with C. I feel in this case pressing NEXTALPHA should take you to the first page with an artist beginning with D and NOT "ignore" the keypress and stay on the same page (that just makes me think my wiring isn't sound). i.e. you should be on:-

Pg 5:
Come On Eileen - Dexy's Midnight Runners
Hotel California - The Eagles
There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck
Drowned - Entombed

and again, if you pressed NEXTALPHA here you wouldn't stay on this page (for Eagles) but instead find the next page that has an artist beginning with F (or G etc. if no 'F's found)

This seems logical to me and, as blah69, states it should only come into play if "you have a very small collection (I suppose it could come into play on "Q", "X" or "Z")."

PREVALPHA would work the same way (but in reverse) by looking at the first song on the page displayed and doing the math.

So FORWARD in your example starting at page 1.

Pg1 (A) -> NEXTALPHA -> Pg3 (B (and A AND C)) -> NEXTALPHA -> Pg 5 (D (and E)) -> NEXTALPHA -> Pg 1 (A)

BACKWARD starting at page 1 in your example set:-

Pg1 (A) -> PREVALPHA -> Pg5 (E (and D)) -> PREVALPHA -> Pg3 (C (and B AND A)) -> PREVALPHA -> Pg 5 (E (and D))

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