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Neo Geo Restore
« on: October 30, 2007, 12:51:40 am »
meh this is a side project and not MAME related. I already did the fun stuff like gutting the cab and scrubbing it clean then coating the inside with primer. I then scrubbed the MVS metal part then painted it red, so it looked neat. I still need to paint the front and get the vinyl for the sides and front redone. Anyone have a stock/repro Neo Geo CPO for sale?

TO DO LIST:
buy & install new matching locks
Clean the insides
Prime the insides
clean and repaint the over under door
repaint the 2Slot MOBO case
print/buy mini marquees
buy & install MVS vinyl
buy install CPO
replace joysticks & buttons
buy and install external memory card reader (and phone jacks)
replace EL lighting with florescent/LED lighting  
maybe replace the CPO I got since its not for a multislot
buy more MVS games!


first got it:


before I painted the inside:


after paint, and I moved the board closer to the front, so I can swap games by opening the CP:


a few from the opened CP:


cleaned up wiring, and some games installed:


SamSho II and marquee:


Marquee:


those mini marquees are printed from http://www.arcadecrusade.com/gallery/v/minimarquees/  and I still need to replace the blown EL marquee lights and put a florescent  fixture in its place.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 09:40:13 am »
Nice...  :applaud:  I have a 1-slot mobo, I'd love to get my hands on a Neo Geo cab to put in.  That link to the mini marquees is nice too.  I had one for my SamSho 3, but I can't find it now.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 12:48:27 pm »
Looks great!

Here's my 4-slot MVS setup. I have it in a Japanese candy cab, and the only things left that I need to do is to replace the marquee light and get a new set of keys and locks.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 01:14:15 pm »
I *LOVE* the candy style cabinets, I'd prefer it over what I have. I still need to change the locks, clean and repaint the over under door, get a control panel overlay, new sticks, new buttons (I re-used old ones I had) and I need to paint the front and sides... then of course buyand install new side vynil. oh and I almost forgot I need to find a mem card reader and head phone jack slot thingie too. Im never gonna get it done :p

Im in no rush to make the machine pretty though, I can play it and thats all that matters right now.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 01:21:43 pm »
Hmmm, doesn't mamemarquees.com print overlays for the Neo Geo cabs? If not, you could ask around the neo-geo.com forums to see if anybody has any NOS or repros for sale. There's a VERY healthy buy/sell community over there.
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 10:39:35 am »
Candy cabs kick so much ass.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 11:19:52 am »
Nice "MORTAL KABINET" Marquee!
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 11:29:57 am »
bought *another* NeoGeo cabinet ( a dedicated 2 slot) and swapped control panels. I need to get a new piece of plexi cut. there is some tear through on the overlay but I think I can mask it well. I snagged the other machine for the bomber man cart and control panel, and Im reselling it to my cousin for the same amount I paid for it (and giving him Samurai Shodown 1 as well)



the cig burn is on the plexi not the panel, so when I get the time and money, I'll get a new one cut/drilled

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Actual MVS:


onboard MAME:


nVidia MAME:

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2007, 01:32:30 pm »
The onboard and nVidia shots are from the same monitor?

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007, 01:54:13 pm »
The onboard and nVidia shots are from the same monitor?

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2007, 05:34:36 pm »
Wow...look at those jaggies on the mame. Did you have any anti-aliasing set?

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2007, 08:32:53 pm »
Wow...look at those jaggies on the mame. Did you have any anti-aliasing set?

as the thread drifts away from the Neo Geo restore.... lol

umm the onboard card kinda sucked, no graphical enhancement at all, the nvidia does it better with the same settings.
actually the nVidia makes it look alot more like the MVS but the colors are still a little off (I "tuned it" to ultimate mortal kombat 3 so the MVS isnt as accurate as it used to be)
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2007, 07:27:24 pm »
redid the front, made it red again (previous owner made it black). Looks a lot better IMO
I'll take more pix and post em up when the new side vinyl gets here. I don't think I need to paint the sides , they look in pretty good shape. I also repositioned the 2 slot board so I can change the games a little easier..... still looking for a 4/6 slot board though



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closer up of the front:


repositioned 2 slot mobo:


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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2007, 09:54:37 am »
repainted teh black, weut

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2007, 11:58:32 am »
It's looking great!

You're going to love that thing. I play my Neo a lot more than I figured I would. The library is actually a lot deeper than I remembered.
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2007, 02:03:33 pm »
It's looking great!

You're going to love that thing. I play my Neo a lot more than I figured I would. The library is actually a lot deeper than I remembered.
I already play it more then UMK3/MKII more then the MAME cab too!

so far I have :
Fatal Fury
King Of Fighters 94
King Of Fighters 98
King Of Fighters 2000
Metal Slug X
Neo Bomberman
Ninja Combat
Puzzle Bobble
Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown II
Samurai Shodown III
Shock Troopers: 2nd Squad
Super Sidekicks 2

lookin for more, if you got any, lemme know!
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2007, 04:07:55 pm »
Hmmm, here's what I have so far (that I can think of off the top of my head). I'm looking to add to the collection as well:

Metal Slug
Metal Slug 2
Metal Slug X
Metal Slug 3
Metal Slug 4
Metal Slug 5
Samurai Showdown II
Ghost Pilots
Ninja Combat
Aero Fighters 2
Strikers 1945 Plus
Garou Mark of the Wolves
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Magical Drop III
Baseball Stars 2
Shock Troopers
King of the Monsters 2
SNK vs Capcom SVC Chaos
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2007, 10:50:27 pm »
added today:

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2007, 11:26:54 pm »
more done:







there is ONE SMALL problem:

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2007, 07:43:35 am »
Maybe no one will notice that missing "I".   :'(

I feel really bad about this.  I left you a PM about it.  We'll get this fixed.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2007, 12:16:08 pm »
Maybe no one will notice that missing "I".   :'(

I feel really bad about this.  I left you a PM about it.  We'll get this fixed.

I never said who I got the stickers from, and I wasnt going to until it was fixed  :P

just so everyone knows, its cool betweens eccs19 and me and things like this do happen, fortunately its on the side where the MKII machine hides most of the sticker  :laugh2:

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2007, 04:48:18 pm »
That new side art and the rest looks great.

You should get neo turf masters, it's a pretty decent game if you can stand the high voices that they have on it.
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2007, 09:00:11 am »
removed the MVS EL panels and repalced them with a 21" fixture and a tiny 8" one to back light the neogeo logo





a cool side effect is the light is directly above the glass for the monitor, so it lights up the entire control panel area in the dark!  :applaud:
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2007, 05:34:11 pm »
Looks amazing man. Looking better and better each time.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2007, 11:56:27 pm »
Very nice.. I love the Neo Geo cabinet's. You are right though a 6 slot would finish it...
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2007, 03:06:34 pm »
Very nice.. I love the Neo Geo cabinet's. You are right though a 6 slot would finish it...

Im aiming for at least a 4 slot board, since its a dedicated 4 slot machine.

Speaking of, I got Stakes Winner 2 Real Bout Fatal Fury 2 and King of Fighters 96 today. I have 5 more carts on the way, weut.  Oh and after this since Im practically broke, Im not buying anymore carts for a while, but feel free to donate some to me.
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2007, 03:46:10 pm »
nice clean work, ill love to have a  neo geo cab, some day i will... congrats
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2007, 08:16:30 pm »
eccs19 came through with the replacement vinyl, I lucked out and got the I fixed with the extra I he tossed in the envelope  , so I could play around with the extra MVS logo.

heres the fixed side:


usage of the spare MVS logo:

please note the board is a little crooked but isnt going to be move, so I(*cough* my girlfriend *cough*) centered the logo by where it looked in the middle, which looks better in person then the picture dictates.


I also rewired the insides to match to what I saw online in "factory" cabs, its alot closer but not perfect....still better then how I got it.

My MVS carts:


3 Count Bout (Fire Suplex)
Aero Fighters 2
Double Dragon
Fatal Fury
Kabuki Clash
King Of Fighters 94
King Of Fighters 95
King Of Fighters 96
King Of Fighters 98
King Of Fighters 2000
King Of Monsters 2
Magical Drop III
Metal Slug X
Metal Slug 2
Neo Bomberman
Neo Cup 98
Ninja Combat
Puzzle Bobble
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown II
Samurai Shodown III
Shock Troopers: 2nd Squad
Stakes Winner 2
Super Sidekicks 2

my cousin has a couple, might be missing from the list
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2007, 01:28:01 pm »
Glad the "I" showed up.  Nice idea putting the extra MVS on there.  It's fits perfectly.   :cheers:
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
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lol.

I actually updated the cab. Redid the control panel. Got a mutli slot overlay and a metal CPO in better shape. The "old" CPO from this cab (seen in above pix) is goin on my other bastard child Neo Geo cab

started with this:


with overlay:


with bottons (on the machine):


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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2008, 04:30:44 pm »
3 more "in action shots"

I still need to reglue the meory card label back onto the front.










Also, heres the latest MVS cart list:

3 Count Bout
Aero Fighters 2
Baseball Stars Professional
Double Dragon
Fatal Fury
Kabuki Klash
King Of Fighters 94
King Of Fighters 95
King Of Fighters 96
King Of Fighters 98
King Of Fighters 2000
King Of Monsters 2
Magical Drop 3
Metal Slug
Metal Slug 2
Metal Slug X
Neo Bomberman
Neo Geo Cup 98
Ninja Combat
Puzzle Bobble
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special 2
Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown II
Samurai Shodown III
Samurai Shodown IV
Shock Troopers: 2nd Squad
Stakes Winner 2
Super Sidekicks 2
Super Spy
World Heroes 2 Jet
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2008, 09:20:30 pm »
where did you get the overlay from.  I have mvs I am restoring and can't find any

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2008, 10:58:27 pm »
I would be curious where you got the overlay as well. I am getting ready to restore a Neo Geo cab, but I am going to do it from scratch. The one I got for a $100 was a conversion and a bad one at that.

As a newbie, I would like to throw a few questions out to the community.

1. The wiring in this old cab is circa 1988. What modifications to a new Jamma harness would I have to make to make it compatible with neo geo?

2. I have found several sources for the Neo Geo cab conversion decal (red square/white lettering). Does anyone know where I could get a rub on decal made of the logo to avoid the potential issue of color mismatch?

3. On that same note, does anyone know the name and the manufacturer of the shade of red used on a neo geo cabinet?

4. Also, I have been having trouble finding "detailed" building plans for a neo geo cab. I found a guy who built his own, but no actual measurements. If anyone has a link to this info, please let me know (any versions).

Thanks in advance for any info,

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2008, 01:42:23 am »
Did you ever get a 4 slot board?

If you need one still, I'd trade you for your 2 slot + some cash.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2008, 09:09:46 am »
1. The wiring in this old cab is circa 1988. What modifications to a new Jamma harness would I have to make to make it compatible with neo geo?

2. I have found several sources for the Neo Geo cab conversion decal (red square/white lettering). Does anyone know where I could get a rub on decal made of the logo to avoid the potential issue of color mismatch?

3. On that same note, does anyone know the name and the manufacturer of the shade of red used on a neo geo cabinet?

4. Also, I have been having trouble finding "detailed" building plans for a neo geo cab. I found a guy who built his own, but no actual measurements. If anyone has a link to this info, please let me know (any versions).
1) not entirely sure and Im not the guy to ask, as both of my cabs were pre-wired dedicated Neo Geo cabs. I know I can just plug jamma boards into the cab and they work fine though but the 4th button on neogeo and the fact they are mono make them non jamma compliant

2)What decal where? the side art stuff I get from ECCS19, its just the white part though, and its awesome.

3)Closest Ive found is the red spray paint by Krylon in the H20 latex series (as seen on the metal part of the mobo and the sides of the cab)

4)I can measure anything you need from either cab, but again, I have 2 actual cabs not detailed plans. check jakobuds?

Did you ever get a 4 slot board?

If you need one still, I'd trade you for your 2 slot + some cash.

RJ

Nope, I still need one. How much cash you lookin for? remember, you get the color matched metal cover with MVS logo =)  Where you live, cause the closer the better
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2008, 08:31:40 pm »
I'm in the Dallas Metromess.

I have a couple of 4 slots that would be good candidates for painting as they have some rust on the metal cover. $40 with the trade. We each take care of our own shipping costs.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2008, 02:21:59 am »
MVS cabs just rock. I just wish I had a control panel with the straight layout of buttons. My 2-slot (MVS-2-25) has the "curved" layout. It also has an shiny silver aluminum control panel that I've not seen anywhere else.

I wouldn't recommend plugging JAMMA boards into a dedicated MVS cab. Most of the differences are minor or switches that won't make a big deal. The bad one is audio. When I first got my 2-slot I tried a couple JAMMA games in it and the heat sink on Mr Driller 2's amp got EXTREMELY hot.

Dedicated 2-slots, 4-slots, and 6-slots all use a variant of the JAMMA specs. 1-slots are standard JAMMA.

Pretty much any tech info needed can be found at hardmvs.com.  Here's the download page with their comparison of JAMMA and MVS pinouts.

Malenko, keep up the good work.
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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2008, 09:54:42 am »
Lemme give you some help with the URLs... the one in your post is broken.

http://www.hardmvs.com/html/PCBcompare.htm has the comparison between the different models of boards, including what kind of connector pinout they have.

http://www.hardmvs.com/html/Downloads.htm is where you can download manuals for the different models of boards.

and

http://www.hardmvs.com/manuals/Jamma2NeoGeo4SlotPinout.pdf is the pinout showing the differences between JAMMA and the MVS pinouts.

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2008, 03:25:59 pm »
Thanks guys,

All the info has been enlightening and helpful. So, I should be able to rewire a jamma harness to a neo geo motherboard, correct ? OR is there a source for reasonably priced MVS harnesses?

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Re: Neo Geo Restore
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2008, 09:32:45 am »
If you have a soldertail connector just add the wires needed for the extra buttons & sound connections... or buy a JAMMA connector that has all the wires attached.

It's the same connector with just a few wires added.

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