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boykster:

--- Quote from: Peale on October 25, 2007, 06:08:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: boykster on October 25, 2007, 03:36:23 pm ---Sorry to hear you had some possible adverse affects from receiving a fluoroquinolone antibiotic.  I seriously doubt it was a conspiracy to make you sick.
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Conspiracy to make me sick?  No, I don't believe that.  I believe it's a conspiracy to keep Bayer's stockholders wallets lined with green.  I believe that if FQs got some serious public scrutiny that they would be used for what they're intended for: last resort antibiotics.

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Here's where it gets complicated; for every 1 patient who has an AE to FQ's, there are probably 100 or 1000 patients who don't.  Deny those 1000 patients access to FQ's as primary treatment course and you're doing a dis-service to that patient population.  When faced with a life-threatening condition you are faced with a decision; most people want a wonder pill that cures what ails them, clean and simple.  Broad spectrum antibiotics like FQ's are essential in the treatment of many different types of bacterium.

Yes, there are known side effects, but there are known side affects for EVERY SINGLE pharmaceutical on the market.  Even the most simple of all medications, aspirin, can kill you in a hundred ways if mis-used.

Also, Bayer is not evil in this; many companies market FQ based AB's - GSK, Sanofi-Aventis, BMS and others also market FQ based antibiotics.  Heck, the company I used to work for was working on a "next generation" antibiotic for the specific treatment of P.aeruginosa using a fluoroquinolone based drug scaffold.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: boykster on October 25, 2007, 06:31:50 pm ---Yes, there are known side effects, but there are known side affects for EVERY SINGLE pharmaceutical on the market.  Even the most simple of all medications, aspirin, can kill you in a hundred ways if mis-used.

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That's exactly the point.  Known to whom?  They weren't known to Peale, even after weeks of suffering them, or to the doctor who was trying to help him find a cause.  Some of that blame definitely lies on the doctor but when side effects could potentially last for months after the medication is no longer being taken it needs to be put out there for the doctor and the patient to make an educated decision on before the drug is consumed.  Peale does have the right to seek out alternative treatments if he wants.

boykster:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 25, 2007, 06:45:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: boykster on October 25, 2007, 06:31:50 pm ---Yes, there are known side effects, but there are known side affects for EVERY SINGLE pharmaceutical on the market.  Even the most simple of all medications, aspirin, can kill you in a hundred ways if mis-used.

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That's exactly the point.  Known to whom?  They weren't known to Peale, even after weeks of suffering them, or to the doctor who was trying to help him find a cause.  Some of that blame definitely lies on the doctor but when side effects could potentially last for months after the medication is no longer being taken it needs to be put out there for the doctor and the patient to make an educated decision on before the drug is consumed.  Peale does have the right to seek out alternative treatments if he wants.

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Sure, I agree, the doctors and even pharmacist involved all play a role in informing the patient.  EVERY drug sold in america, OTC or prescribed, includes either an insert or a label describing the risk factors of the medication, and absolutely, Peale and every other person has a right to pursue whatever course of treatment they choose.  Heck, this nutjob with his anti FQ propoganda website is free to post whatever he wants, I don't care.  I'm just trying to bring a bit of balance and bring to light that ANYTHING can be toxic if misused.

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