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I'm amazed at how many people have the wrong idea...
CCM:
umm, maybe you should just keep your mouth shut and do your job. The last thing I want when I have any kind of repairman in my house is for him to start an argument or try to force his views/beliefs on me.
You really should be more professional, you are out there representing your company and I'm sure they wouldn't be very happy with you starting ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- with their customers.
Do we really need another pit bull thread??? You didn't get enough arguing out of the other one that you had to go and start this one?
lharles:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 23, 2007, 10:17:11 am ---That instance was probably the dog reacting to something that had happened in that situation in the past - your father kicking it for making a mess of the food, most likely. The dog was expecting it to happen again, but your father is the alpha male and not you, so it didn't feel the need to wait around to be kicked by you. Since a pit bull doesn't have much of a tendency to clam down once aggravated, it took a while to get it confined. Trust me on this... the dog didn't want to fight you. If it had you'd be dead. It just didn't want to be hurt by you. Sounds like it gave you ample warning before it bit you and you misinterpreted it.
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Perhaps it was a response based on past experience, I can't say due to the fact that I don't speak dog or read minds.
I didn't and don't believe the dog wanted to fight me either.
I guess what I was illustrating was that if you treat a dog like crap, it will probably end up acting crappy.
Did it give me warning...? Well, the growling that he did was something that did occur on many occasions as food was being given so it's hard to think that what had been standard behavior would escalate to an attack. I didn't mention that it was something he often did in the narrative I gave before though so that certainly might have seemed like a warning.
I can tell you that the behavior the dog displayed prior to biting me didn't come across as a warning at all based on the past I'd had with it.
Sadly, the dog continued to be mistreated for the remainder of it's life after I moved out.
It wound up becoming more and more aggressive and was eventually put to sleep after attacking my father. At least he got that part right. :)
ChadTower:
Growling, when not in the middle of physical play, is almost always a warning. If the dog had growled before while being fed then it was probably warning you on those occasions, too. Why it chose this instance to bite and not others is something you can't get from the dog's mind. Sounds like the dog was generally afraid of being kicked while being fed. Maybe your father used to kick it away from the bowl while refilling? That would definitely cause that sort of behaviour - a negative association with the act of refilling the food dish. Or maybe just one bad instance - one kick that really hurt the dog while refilling the dish. Dogs, for the most part, are stimuli/response creatures, and if they have a consistent behaviour with a specific trigger like this there is a reason for it.
Ed_McCarron:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 23, 2007, 01:32:20 am ---This is not a believe of whether there is a god or not. This is a fact that some people cannot grasp the idea that a well trained dog is not dangerous no matter the breed.
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I disagree. All dogs, all animals, as a matter of fact probably everything with a brain is capable of being dangerous.
Now, that said, if I had a choice of animals I want biting me? Pits are probably pretty far down the list, and I love dogs.
Hell, my neighbors min-pin is more dangerous than my golden. That little yapper has drawn blood on several occasions.
Again, that said, the golden is not beyond snapping if it feels threatened, or, more likely, startled.
I look at it like this. Would I rather play russian roulette with five bullets or one?
ChadTower:
My neighbors got a dog this summer - a very friendly mix of some sort of terrier/retriever. They pay near zero attention to her and keep her in the fenced in backyard. She loves to play - I reach over the fence and play with her all the time and she runs over whenever I'm out there hoping I'll chuck her ball around for a few minutes. The reason I mention this is that I've never heard her make a sound. Not a bark, not a growl, nothing whatsoever over several months. Not even when playing hard tug of war (which she loves) - that's a game that a dog often growls over. Could they have done something to her vocal cords? It's not natural for an active dog to be this quiet.
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