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I'm amazed at how many people have the wrong idea...
tommy:
Is a story about a pit killing someone supposed to mean something special to anyone?
It's a sad story that someone got hurt or died, but it really has nothing to do with these dogs that anything else that is living could not also do givin the right circumstances, or wrong circumstances.
These dogs that hurt people have owners that wanted the dog to act that way and so, it does. Then when you get enough idiots with these dogs that want to have them act this way you get a bad rep. It could happen to anything big enough to cause harm..
AtomSmasher:
--- Quote from: tommy on November 12, 2007, 10:21:47 am ---That's not what i said and that's not the concept.
There is a difference between a wild animal held captive in a human environment to a domesticated dog.
Don't be silly and go to the other end of the spectrum.
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Heh, seems like a much smaller difference then the one between a domesticated dog and a human, which is the comparison you are often making.
rovingmind:
My wife HAD a domesticated dog. It was a trained Jack Russell Terrier that she had since it was 8 weeks old.
We have a 1 year old daughter.
Said dog bit said daughter on the face.
He was watched constantly from the moment she was born, they were introduced slowly and the potential clash between girl and dog didnt happen until food was involved.
She walked up and took a chewie out of his mouth. A typical child action. Were this a pitbull i would no longer have a child.
I dont support a general Ban on anything. But, if a neighbor of mine gets a pitbull, a rottweiler or a doberman I would have no qualms about removing it from my property in a garbage bag, if it were acting vicious at all.
A dog is an animal, not a member of the family.
I'll chase it home with a broom once, maybe twice depending on my mood. After that the problem will quietly go away.
tommy:
There is nothing more i can say. We all know a small caliber gun would cause less damage then a bigger one, but in the right hands there would be no chance of even being shot. This is all moot.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: tommy on November 12, 2007, 10:21:47 am ---That's not what i said and that's not the concept.
There is a difference between a wild animal held captive in a human environment to a domesticated dog.
Don't be silly and go to the other end of the spectrum.
--- End quote ---
A puma can be domesticated just as easily as any regular house cat and circus lions are pretty domesticated too.
The reason we don't hold these animals in our homes (apart from the size of course) is the same as why pit bulls are so dangerous. Even though they may appear friendly and obedient, it takes just one mistake where they bite (or in the felines case claw) and you are in deep trouble. A well trained pit is very unlikely to bite someone, but if it does bite then the damage is severe. You can never completely prevent accidents with animals. So there always is a risk with bites and with pit bulls doing that much damage it's just too much of a risk to take with your own and other people's limbs/lives.
It's not the individual character or behavior of a dog that's in question. There you might argue that a friendly dog is less worse than an aggressive one. Obviously that is true. The point is the physical difference between a pit bull and a poodle which makes the bite of a pitbull so much more devastating than that of a poodle.
This severe damage is what makes the "actuarial risk" of a pit bull so much higher than that of other dogs.