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patrickl:

But then one day you are redecorating your house/trailer and the constant noise of power tools gets on the dogs nerves. The dog no longer feels safe and loved in it's home, it's pretty damned annoyed. A person walks in, makes a wrong move and the dog snaps ...

Of all these attacks that you see in the paper really all people say that their dog was the greatest sweetheart too. It does happen that people train their pit to be an attack dog, but then at least they know to stay away from it. It's when the "sweethearts" have their bad moment and lash out that it goes wrong. It's always a bunch of coincidences why these dogs go nuts, but it's not something you control.

I hope your dog never goes attacks, but you are insane in thinking that you can prevent it from attacking.

shardian:

Tommy, it's simple - you are wrong.

If a dog is mesed up when its born, it can't be trained away. Ask and REAL dog breeder/trainer. The truth is that dogs just don't one day "snap". The warning signs are there, people just don't recognize them most of the time. Dogs that are territorial as a pup - bad thing. Puppies that growl when you place your hand near their food - a sign people. Ankle biters and dogs that chase and act brave when a persons back is turned, but shy away when the person turns around - bad sign. That means the dog has bad nerves and basically has a mental imbalance just like a human with mental problems would have. You can't train that away with sunshine and daisies like you think.

ChadTower:


--- Quote from: tommy on November 08, 2007, 05:13:54 pm ---Yep, it's not cool when a person who is a murderer comes up behind you and it's really hard to tell the difference between a normal person and a psycho. Be carefull.  :tool:

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That dog's behaviour would be considered harrassment and/or assault were it a person.  Consider that.  That's not a normal person behind his wife.  It's a 6-8 275 guy yelling at her.



--- Quote ---Think of it as a child (or a gun).
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Can't do that.  It's not a child... a child has rational thought and right/wrong.  A dog only has impulse and reward/consequence.  It's not a gun... a gun is an inanimate object that cannot act on its own.

It's an animal.  It will act like an animal and must be thought of as such.

shardian:


--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 09, 2007, 08:41:49 am ---
--- Quote from: tommy on November 08, 2007, 05:13:54 pm ---Yep, it's not cool when a person who is a murderer comes up behind you and it's really hard to tell the difference between a normal person and a psycho. Be carefull.  :tool:

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That dog's behaviour would be considered harrassment and/or assault were it a person.  Consider that.  That's not a normal person behind his wife.  It's a 6-8 275 guy yelling at her.

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Yeah, that statement was so utterly retarded I didn't even know what to do with it. I guess I would have to visit Tommyville for a while to understand some of the things he thinks or says.

WELCOME TO TOMMYVILLE!
Population: 1

ChadTower:


We can get you to tommyville but I'm afraid it is a one way trip. 

The only thing I can think of where that comment is consistent with his prior statements is if he thinks following a pedestrian while growling and barking (without touching) is reasonable and that a well trained dog is within his limits doing that.  If he actually believes that, though, then every statement he has ever made about his dog and its training has become irrelevant.

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