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I'm amazed at how many people have the wrong idea...
jbox:
You guys are missing the obvious! If a gun makes you safer, and a dog makes you safer, then the safestest thing in the whole wide world???
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 23, 2007, 01:32:20 am ---This is a fact that some people cannot grasp the idea that a well trained dog is not dangerous no matter the breed.
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tommy -- the main reason that people can't take what you say seriously is that you say so many ridiculous things while trying to make some lesset lesser point. Pretty much every dog is dangerous, even if well-trained. Consider the situation where the animal is frightened -- instinct takes over. Or stung by an insect. You know how you react when you see a pretty girl ? That's instinct and it ain't ever completely overcome by training.
As for guard dogs, my suggestion is to do what my parents did when they lived in Brazil -- the neighbours had Rottweilers, Mastiffs, Great Danes, Dobermans and Shepherds -- my parents got a pair of Old English sheepdogs (named Simon and Garfunkel). Worked like a charm.
;D
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: shmokes on October 23, 2007, 01:03:22 am ---Why would you bait a customer by suggesting they get a pit bull, when you know what the likely response is going to be? That's a customer, for christ's sake! <...>
Be a professional Tommy. Real life is not the internet. <...>
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That was totally my thoughts on the subject too... I'd seriously consider firing an employee who was in a customer's home and was starting arguments with customers on subjects completely unrelated to the job. You're supposed to make the customers feel happy you were there and feel encouraged to invite you back for more work. Anything less than that is hurting your employer.
--- Quote ---I may be able to tell what is a sensitive subject or not but that's no reason to NOT talk to people about it.
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Yes there is a very good reason not to talk about it. You're at a customer site performing work duties. You don't start conversations about potentially volatile topics. If they try to, you slide the topic to something safer. That is professionalism. You're not there for a social call. Do the job, be pleasant, make sure they are happy with the work, and then get out.
missioncontrol:
oh geeez not this crap again
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=72171.0
Tommy,
you are NOT single handily going to change everyone's view of pitbulls. Maybe you need to find a pitbull owners forum if you want people to share your opinions about these dogs.
First off you are going to a customers house. You are baiting these customers with your responses and then get all upset when they don't share your views. WTF are you on some type of crusade or something?
These dogs stereotyped as dangerous, but hey, if you want one and think you are responsible enough... then fine keep your dog indoors and realize that opinions differ and everyone is not going to share your beliefs. From some of the threads you start, I almost think the only reason you have a pit is because of the controversy surrounding them. Your responses read as if you view yourself as having superiority because you think you have a handle on your dog. Maybe you do, but that doesn't mean everyone does and there are plenty of owners who don't.
rhoelsch:
You can't ignore the fact that many dogs species exist because they are bred to enhance certain traits -- a purebred hound, for example, will always have a greater innate propensity to become an effective hunting dog than, say, a Shih Tsu. It ain't like having a machine gun in the house but never buying any bullets... dogs will always come with their own ammo... Pit Bulls are, along with some other breeds, very effective killers -- you can't train out genetics. I have a 1 year old and a Golden Retriever. My dog could easily kill my son, I won't pretend like it isn't a possibility. But given a choice between him and a dog that's been BRED to be an efficent biter, guess which one I let my boy live with? All things considered equal, bad trainer, good trainer whatever, the breed & inborn traits become the variable. I don't think the Roy Horn case is really that far off, and man, could that guy train a tiger!