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I'm amazed at how many people have the wrong idea...
shmokes:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 23, 2007, 01:19:09 am ---
I don't know that from looking at a guy. How do i know they would be just another guy making the same general statements as others do. I've ran into many people who agree with me.
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Yes you do. You know how he feels about pit bulls just like I know how some random person feels about Jesus. In point of fact, I don't know. But I know that there's a high ---smurfing--- potentiality for strong feelings on the subject and, more likely than not, the person disagrees with me. Same thing in your case. You don't KNOW by looking at the guy whether he thinks pit bulls can only sustain themselves by eating children, but you KNOW that he probably does feel this way because you've talked to a million people about it. Next to glass and the NY Giants, you've made defending pit bulls your life's work. You know how people feel about them.
There are a lot of atheists in America. A good 10-15% of the population is atheist. It's perfectly reasonable to think that I could just start talking ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on Jesus and there's a decent chance that the person I'm talking to will also be atheist. But I KNOW that there's a damned good chance that I ain't talking to an atheist, just like you know that the person probably thinks pit bulls are dangerous and should not be owned and bred.
tommy:
I'm not qualified to make that assumption and neither are you. I don't know who thinks guns should be banned or who thinks what about anything until i start talking about it, do i? You can't be serious.
I may be able to tell what is a sensitive subject or not but that's no reason to NOT talk to people about it.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 23, 2007, 01:32:20 am ---This is not a believe of whether there is a god or not. This is a fact that some people cannot grasp the idea that a well trained dog is not dangerous no matter the breed.
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That's beside the point. First off, that's ---smurfing--- ridiculous; but I'll get back to that. It doesn't matter how stupid they are. Some people can't grasp the fact that hydrogenated oils are killing them, but I'm not going to go into a customer's home and start an argument with them about their margarine.
Secondly, Tommy, I agree that people act ridiculous about pit bulls, but no less ridiculous than you act about them. They're all about overreacting and screaming about the sky is falling, but you're at the other end of the spectrum sticking your head in the sand. Pit bulls are far more dangerous than other breeds of dogs. A well trained pit bull is more dangerous than a well trained chihuahua and a poorly trained pit bull is more dangerous than a poorly trained chihuahua. I have two cats. I've had both since they were kittens and both have had virtually the same life. One, however, is aggressive, while the other is a total fraidy-cat. Animals have personalities that go beyond training. If you are going to run into a bear in the wilderness, you WANT it to be a black bear. Grizzly bears and Polar bears are far more dangerous. They attack people more often. Their attacks are more often deadly. They are objectively more dangerous than black bears.
Perhaps you would have more success in your quest to get people to be more realistic in the way the view pit bulls if you, yourself, were realistic about it.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 23, 2007, 01:38:00 am ---I'm not qualified to make that assumption and neither are you. I don't know who thinks guns should be banned or who thinks what about anything until i start talking about it, do i? You can't be serious.
I may be able to tell what is a sensitive subject or not but that's no reason to NOT talk to people about it.
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Yes it is. Of course it is. Its your customer in a business setting. You make small talk. You talk about things that will make them happy. Don't tell them how you feel about abortion, jesus, pit bulls, illegal immigration, etc. You're a fool to push those hot buttons. But at the very least, don't push the hot buttons and then ---smurfette--- about it like you're a victim.
tommy:
Dude, this was a setting to where a pit bull conversation was warrented as in home safety and what a person could do to protect them self. Don't make this as if i went around knocking on random doors trying to get people to believe what i do for no reason.