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TPB:
I don't believe Scott has been left "out of pocket" by Christian. He's too clever and canny, with too much business acumen, to allow that to happen :
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 05, 2008, 03:15:39 pm ---The fact of the matter is...whether Chris is or was just an employee (which is my understanding) or a partner, or even the owner of SlikStik LLC...It is an LLC which protects him personally...unless you wrote a check out to "Christian S" directly. I know this, because I have several LLCs set up by my attorney and business consultant for this very reason.
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... anyone who put that much forethought into setting up an LLC business structure to "cover his ass" if all goes south, would NOT be naive enough to allow himself to be duped by Christian.
Yes, Christian has not produced the panels Scott ordered from him (to fulfil his own Mameroom orders), but you can bet Scott set up a COD payment arrangement with Christian, ie, "you don't get paid UNTIL I see my panel".
As to whether he was naive enough to believe his stated proclamation, that Christian was nothing more than a "mere employee" of SlikStik, well, that's open to conjecture.
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 07:36:46 pm ---Let's say I blame them for DELIBERATELY pissing chris off enough to not fullfill his promise to get people's products out...but we ALL know that's what they wanted from the beginning to add fuel to THEIR fire. Selfish.
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... Scott, I've only repeated this quote, because you proclaimed to CheffoJeffo that you continue to stand by it :
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 18, 2008, 09:39:51 am ---I meant what I said...I honestly believe that several people in here would rather OTHER people not get their panels than to back-off. You CANNOT tell me that I'm wrong.
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That's a pretty sweeping statement.
I think you'll find we were all stoked when Mike Ahearn got his money back a few days ago (through his bank processing a chargeback on his behalf), after his cash had been MIA with SlikStik since March 2007.
It's a pity that getting chargebacks through a bank, is the only remedy still available ... none of us have "held Christian back" from whipping out his chequebook & sending out refunds himself, or completing the unfulfilled orders.
Guys, I think you're correct in your summation that Scott hasn't had a sudden change of heart towards our point of view ... his decision to sever ties with Christian is most probably a BUSINESS DECISION driven by a plunge in new orders Mameroom has experienced, since he made the ill-judged decision of joining forces with Christian.
He's now back-pedaling to salvage Mameroom's profitability.
Or maybe profitability has been "just fine", but Scott has come to realise that Christian is a supplier who cannot be relied upon.
Whatever ... the point is, this is a business decision, first and foremost.
But having said that, DOES IT REALLY MATTER what the MOTIVATION was behind Scott's decision ?? Surely the OUTCOME is what matters most ... and the outcome is that he's severed ties with SlikStik products and Christian (at least, that's what he's promised to do).
If Scott follows through on this commitment, surely this is the outcome everyone desires, so his motivation becomes somewhat irrelevant.
Fozzy The Bear:
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 18, 2008, 08:10:29 am ---If I outright CALLED someone a name, or outright accused someone of something...then I apoligize. I didn't re-read everything here, but I can only recall actually calling out one person directly...in which I apoligized.
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Strange, I don't recall seeing an apology from you....
Personally I couldn't care less either way. You're just a minor side issue. That's not to say your behavior in here was acceptable in any way either to me personally or this community, and as far as I'm concerned your damage limitation exercise here is as unbelievable and disingenuous as your original posts.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
rovingmind:
I've read whats there of this entire thread.
At this point, all i can say is, let mameroom alone and see how he conducts himself in the future. Anything else directed at him now is just repeat flaming. Yes he made some posting mistakes. Yes he's appologized. All thats being brought up now has been brought up before a few pages back. Yes the association with Christian has tarnished his reputation.
I agree with cheffo and fozzy regarding that slickstick/christian character. If the name of his new business gets known, it needs broadcast around to warn everybody about him.
It makes me glad i was able to get "whitey" from Dustin mustangs, i was able to see his actual finished cabinet "blackie" and its a really nice cabinet design. I'm glad i have the capability of making a new control panel myself for whitey. It also makes me a bit jealous since i dont have access to a cnc panel cutter.
Anytime i offer something for sale, i keep the payment separate until i know the customer is satisfied. Its the easiest way of dealing with refund nastiness in my opinion.
Circo:
You know I have been away for a few weeks, and it's kind of sad to see mameroom being dragged through the mud like this. From a business aspect he has never (from multiple personal experiences) given anything but WOW service to his customers. I have seen him go way out of his way on quite a few occasions and have been left slackjawed by his customer service. (BTW, I mean that in a sincerely good way)
At the end of the day isn't that what really matters, is there ANYONE here that can say they have ever got ripped off, or had bad service from mameroom? If not then does any of the rest of it really matter? He is always quick, easy to communicate with, and values his customers and his business.
Speaking for myself, THANK YOU MAMEROOM, I don't care about the rest of the crap, you still have my business, and all of the folks I consult for.
FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: Circo on January 20, 2008, 05:13:15 am ---
At the end of the day isn't that what really matters, is there ANYONE here that can say they have ever got ripped off, or had bad service from mameroom? If not then does any of the rest of it really matter? [emphasis mine]
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Yes, it matters. Well, it mattered. Decisions have been made that takes him off my personal ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- list (not that he really cared if he was on it...nor should he)...but yes, it mattered.