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--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 06:30:21 pm --- --- Quote ---I understand...but be sure to purchase all of your controls from somewhere other than Happ...and make sure the vendor you use, doesn't use Happ controls. They too (just like us) resell Christians products. So a boycott of this type may be more ingrained than you think. I won't call out the SEVERAL other big vendors as they may wish to remain anonymous at this point. I'm sure that once Christians new business is up and running, that we will no longer offer The Classic, Co2, or Quad Ultimate controllers. --- Quote ---i stopped using happs years ago. in case you didn't know all they are is a middleman anyway. just about everything they sell can be bought from their suppliers cheaper. but my point wasn't to boycott every company that works with christian. i just don't want to put any money in HIS pocket. i wouldn't have any problem buying other things from you as long as it wasn't anything that was made by christian or put money in his pocket. i just cant run my business and expect a good reputation by dealing with a known scam artist. i don't want anyone to think i will pull up stakes and screw people out of their money as he has. my dad once told me "you are judged by the people you associate with". dont get me wrong i am not by any means telling you how you should run your business. its yours to run the way you want. i am just explaining how i want to run mine. my earlier offer was sincere, if you part ways with christian please let me know. i could use a good cp maker for my machines. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- End quote --- |
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--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 07:36:46 pm ---People..regarding Scott Glazer/Mameroom Designs LLC...what is so hard to grasp? -Why is everyone so interested in "where's the blame"? Does it matter? Will it get you your money back? Will it get you your product? --- End quote --- Are you kidding me??? Of course it matters. It's about responsibility. It's about what's right and wrong. And, as far as it concerns you, it's about the fact that you actually came here and chose to blame BYOAC members for Christian's actions. That's the only reason I posted in this thread at all. You did it the first time and I cringed. You did it in a second post and I was shocked. You did it in a third post, and my jaw dropped. You did it in a fourth post, and I felt I had to say something about it. Over and over you repeatedly blamed people in this thread for being the reason that customers were not going to get what they paid for. You cast blame on people who were completely innocent and even to this very moment you REFUSE to place any blame on Christian, the guy who conned his way into this situation is somehow innocent in your mind, but people in this thread are guilty. That's just stunning to me. And then you ask "Why is everyone so interested in "where's the blame"? "??? Are you serious? In your mind only "economics" is to blame? If you were to lose all your money because a poor person stole it from your bank account, would you only blame "economics" then? Or are things different when it's YOUR money and not somebody elses? --- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 07:36:46 pm ---People are so out for blood that they'll settle for Mameroom, since they can't get to SS or Christian...it really is pathetic. --- End quote --- Give me a break. It's clear why people are upset with you and if you don't get it it's only because you're trying to dismiss their criticisms. People are upset with you/Mameroom because you are choosing to deal with someone who they believe to be a crook. Additionally, you are not only acting as his supportive mouthpiece but you are also refusing to place any responsibility on him as the person who was actually the CAUSE of this trainwreck. You are supporting the activities of a person who they feel has done a huge disservice to other arcade hobbiests. THAT is why people are upset with you, your words and your actions. How tough is that to understand? --- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 07:36:46 pm ---Everyone seems to think that I'm standing up for him... --- End quote --- Because you are. Because you repeatedly blame others in this thread for something they have no control over (i.e. people getting what they paid for) But yet you refuse to place any blame on Christian who has COMPLETE control over whether people get what they paid for. If that's not "standing up for Christian", then I don't know what is. --- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 07:36:46 pm ---and the FACT that Chris publicly (even though through a 3rd party) stated that this was the EXACT reason for not doing was I knew would happen. --- End quote --- The fact that Christian decided not to do the right thing is 100% his decision. The fact that he chose to blame Fozzy for it doesn't make it so. Fozzy didn't hold a gun to his head. Fozzy didn't make him do anything. Coming up with an excuse for doing the wrong thing doesn't suddenly make it right. If you want to be a "hero", you have to act like one, not just make excuses for why you decided to NOT act like one. That's it. I finally got the answer to who you think is to blame for all of this, so now that I've cleared up why people are upset and why I think responsibility is important, I'm done here. |
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I don't personally know anything about slickstick or any other panel makers, so I wont comment on them: but here is something to consider. If you are going to make a MAME or JAMMA cabinet, why not MAKE the control panel? I have a small budget for the whole project, and want to make it as much my own project as possible. I have asked for help with woodwork/construction design from a local finishing carpenter/friend (who would still charge me 30 an hour to do the work, as he has 40 year experience and could do it well) but I think I will go my own route and actually make all the stuff myself (including mistakes). Making MY cabinet should be MY job, otherwise it is just piecing things others made together.. (OK OK, I will be buying an IPAC and buttons and such, but you get my jist) Beyond that, I do hope that the people who ordered slikstick panels get them soon. This was just my humble opinion about making ones own cabinet. |
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