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| Mameroom:
I did not mean to make light of the 15% coming from this forum...that is a significant amount. My point is that 15% is not enough to keep someone from starting a new business...thus, he will suceed in starting a new business regardless of what happens in here. I also am not hiding behind my company's reputation. Although this is me (Scott) voicing my opinions, and often mention my company Mameroom...it really is one and the same. I know all to well that this forum will attach my company to me and this thread the instant things start to go sour. That being said, what does everyone think my motive is? Why would I put my company name on the line to post in here? One could say that I am risking my reputation (company rep) to stick up for Chris...one could also say that I am putting myself at risk trying to keep the peace so customers still get what they paid for... Both are true. I have several customers from this board/thread that have contacted me because they cannot get a refund from their cc company and have not heard anything from SlikStik. I am sticking my own neck out here to say that there is a chance for them. It's the MANY members here that either RECEIVED their merchandise, or NEVER purchased anything from SlikStik chiming in or leading a tirade that will ruin it for these people. And I think that is selfish....those people are the ones that have NO RIGHT to take the soap box. Those people are the ones that need something to gripe about, regardless of what it is. I think it is wrong. There is a chance for everyone to get what they paid for...and because a few loose cannons (Yes, I am refering to the members that aren't even SS customers) need to be heard over and over and over and over and over and over...what exactly is YOUR motive? You are screwing these people just as much as SS, whether you know it or not...and YES, I do have information and a reason for telling people to "relax" for a little while...but we all know that's not going to happen... It's apparant that me getting in the middle here just has no merit. I tried, but it's not worth it to me to see my company shed in a negative light when trying to get them their products. I really just wanted to do what I could to see everyone get something out of this mess. |
| Tiger-Heli:
I think Comp1Demon has the best comments in this thread recently. --- Quote from: Mameroom on January 06, 2008, 08:45:44 am ---It's the MANY members here that either RECEIVED their merchandise, or NEVER purchased anything from SlikStik chiming in or leading a tirade that will ruin it for these people. There is a chance for everyone to get what they paid for...and because a few loose cannons (Yes, I am refering to the members that aren't even SS customers) need to be heard over and over and over and over and over and over...what exactly is YOUR motive? You are screwing these people just as much as SS, whether you know it or not...and YES, I do have information and a reason for telling people to "relax" for a little while...but we all know that's not going to happen... --- End quote --- Well - I guess the above would be me - never purchased anything from SS and chiming in. First off - what we post here will not ruin it for the people waiting on panels. If Chris makes right and gets SS back in shape and honors his obligations or does so with his own new company that's fine. If he doesn't do so - it won't be b/c of a few comments on these boards. (Now if you mean that by posting here he might lose new orders which means he won't have funding to complete the existing orders, that could be, but he shouldn't have gotten into that business model to start with.) I see your point, but don't really want to argue it further here. As for my motives - I have been around long enough to see some of the personal attacks on other vendors by SS and the people complaining about not receiving products, shoddy wormanship, etc. (Going back to an initial review of a panel with wires disconnected/damage in shipping, when the only real competitors were HotRod, X-Arcade (I think they were already around), SlickStick and a company that is gone called Stick-It). I, like you, hope that Xtian makes right and turns his ship around and starts delivering on his promises - but unlike you, I'm not holding my breath. And I am adding my post in the thread, b/c newbs will read this and think: Customer A got ripped off Customer B got their product Customer C did not get their product but wants to give SS a second chance Poster X and Y says SS has had plenty of chances and has not changed their ways yet. Poster Z is a vendor and says he thinks SS will turn this around. And I am just adding my voice to the Poster X and Y comments to give them more weight (I don't think adding a poll - give them a 2nd chance/ don't give them a 2nd chance is a good solution). --- Quote ---...so I will stop posting on this matter for awhile as It's apparant that me getting in the middle here just has no merit. I really just wanted to do what I could to see everyone get something out of this mess. --- End quote --- I realize you may want to respond to my comments, but I think the above is your best course of action. As I understand it, you are both a supplier and a competitor of SlickStik's. --- Quote ---He will continue to receive business from Mameroom (and others as I don't want to call them out if they don't want the attention that I have now focused on my company). --- End quote --- --- Quote ---We can create Slikstik style panels, our current style panels, and we will even begin manufacturing completely custom panels. --- End quote --- If Xtian is successful with his new company, you will hopefully still be a supplier to him but will have new competition for your own products, but everyone will be better, and while I am highly skeptical, this is what I would like to see happen as well. If Xtian is unsuccessful in his new business (which I would guess, but that's beside the point), you will have lost one of your customers but will be able to garner new customers from people who would have previously purchased from Xtian. However - if his current SS and/or new business ends badly - you will undoubtedly lose a fair amount of sales from customers that remember your support of SS/Xtian and unfairly want to "tar you with the same brush". Just my 2-cents, FWIW!!!! |
| Orclord:
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 06, 2008, 08:45:44 am ---I did not mean to make light of the 15% coming from this forum...that is a significant amount. My point is that 15% is not enough to keep someone from starting a new business...thus, he will suceed in starting a new business regardless of what happens in here. --- End quote --- I hope he does and becomes successful... But he will have to work bloody hard to shake the Slikstik Albatros that's around his neck.... One cockup and bam...Back to square one with a lot of "I told you so's" along the way.... --- Quote ---It's apparant that me getting in the middle here just has no merit. I tried, but it's not worth it to me to see my company shed in a negative light when trying to get them their products. I really just wanted to do what I could to see everyone get something out of this mess. --- End quote --- Ever tried to break up a fight in real life ? No matter how Noble your intentions you always end up getting dragged into it and a few punches come your way... I have never ordered anything from SlikStik...But being as I advise people..If I failed to mention what is going on and they ordered from them and crap happened.....They are going to say "why didn't you warn me" and shite is gonna come my way..... I have never personally slated Christian only SlikStik.....All I was saying if Christian puts himself in this position then he has got to expect some personal attacks, even though they really do not solve anything.. Anyway back to lurking.... |
| Xam:
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 06, 2008, 08:45:44 am ---I did not mean to make light of the 15% coming from this forum...that is a significant amount. My point is that 15% is not enough to keep someone from starting a new business...thus, he will suceed in starting a new business regardless of what happens in here. I also am not hiding behind my company's reputation. Although this is me (Scott) voicing my opinions, and often mention my company Mameroom...it really is one and the same. I know all to well that this forum will attach my company to me and this thread the instant things start to go sour. That being said, what does everyone think my motive is? Why would I put my company name on the line to post in here? One could say that I am risking my reputation (company rep) to stick up for Chris...one could also say that I am putting myself at risk trying to keep the peace so customers still get what they paid for... Both are true. I have several customers from this board/thread that have contacted me because they cannot get a refund from their cc company and have not heard anything from SlikStik. I am sticking my own neck out here to say that there is a chance for them. It's the MANY members here that either RECEIVED their merchandise, or NEVER purchased anything from SlikStik chiming in or leading a tirade that will ruin it for these people. And I think that is selfish....those people are the ones that have NO RIGHT to take the soap box. Those people are the ones that need something to gripe about, regardless of what it is. I think it is wrong. There is a chance for everyone to get what they paid for...and because a few loose cannons (Yes, I am refering to the members that aren't even SS customers) need to be heard over and over and over and over and over and over...what exactly is YOUR motive? You are screwing these people just as much as SS, whether you know it or not...and YES, I do have information and a reason for telling people to "relax" for a little while...but we all know that's not going to happen... It's apparant that me getting in the middle here just has no merit. I tried, but it's not worth it to me to see my company shed in a negative light when trying to get them their products. I really just wanted to do what I could to see everyone get something out of this mess. --- End quote --- Scott, This community may only account for 15% of SS business...but the members here know many people outside the forums...How many sales did SS lose because people on this board told their friends to avoid SS? I currently have 3 people wanting me to build cabinets for them and though I have not personally dealt with SS or Christian, I will not buy parts from SS or any company Christian is associated with. Look through the forums, you can read all about Christian's exploits. I will only say that Christian needs to take a class in customer relations if he expects to succeed. You cannot constantly PO customers in a niche market such as this and expect to succeed. I wish him the best. I hope he does make good on his promise. I know the people here will only believe it when it happens. Just my 2 cents... Xam |
| MaximRecoil:
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 06, 2008, 08:45:44 am ---I did not mean to make light of the 15% coming from this forum...that is a significant amount. My point is that 15% is not enough to keep someone from starting a new business...thus, he will suceed in starting a new business regardless of what happens in here. --- End quote --- I didn't realize you were a prophet. Could I trouble you for some lottery numbers? |
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