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ChadTower:
It's not about how big you are. Many NFL players are smaller than average men even now. It's about how fast you are at a given size. Always was, always will be. Unless you run a 4.8 40 you weren't playing even then... and you wouldn't be good enough to sell peanuts now. Those are the 4.8 40 guys these days.
Jdurg:
I'm in great physical shape (after going to a gym for the past 10 months and forcing myself from being a lazy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- into being an active individual), and I'm nowhere CLOSE to what even a 1920's NFL player was. I'm just happy to be in shape. I was in HORRIFIC shape before I started going to the gym. At work, we have a gym and I spend an hour there every day. It's killed me not being able to go into the gym this past week while on vacation.
When I started going there back in early February of 2007, I could do four push-ups before my arms gave out and I had to stop. In September, I did 26 before my arms couldn't do any more. (No time limit. Just how many you could do before giving up). Also, I started with a weight of 175 pounds a % body fat of 32.7%!!!! :o In September, my weight was only down to 165 pounds, but my % body fat was down to 22.4%! I dropped a LOT of fat and put on a LOT of muscle. My arms now look damned good, and I can go without wearing a shirt and not feel embarassed. In fact, I shocked the living hell out of some friends of mine when we did a push-up contest to see who could do the most in a five-minute time-span. I won easily and everybody figured I'd be the first one out. I took my shirt off and everybody was stunned that I was muscular.
Just a bit of working out and trying to keep my muscles in shape has done wonders. Still, any NFL player regardless of the year could beat the living crap out of me physical wise.
hypernova:
I loved the quote I heard one fin said. He claimed that their team was on the "inside pole" because they were the first to do it.
16-0
14-0
Hmm...which is better?
--- Quote ---So far, the Pats have NOT proven that they can win the big game this year.
--- End quote ---
They have in the last few years. Not the same, I agree, but it generally refutes your statement.
--- Quote ---their division is one of the weakest divisions in the history of the NFL.
--- End quote ---
Division, maybe. Conference? No. In fact, they played the toughest NFC division.
Notable games:
SD 14 @ NE 38
CLE 17 @ NE 34
NE 48 @ DAL 27
WAS 7 @ NE 52
NE 24 @ IND 20
PHI 28 @ NE 31
NE 27 @ BAL 24
PIT 13 @ NE 34
NE 38 @ NYG 35
6 of those are playoff teams. (almost 7 due to Cleveland's tiebreaker circumstance.) 4 of those 6 are division champs.
--- Quote ---From the first kickoff of the season it was apparent that they were going to win the division
--- End quote ---
You could apply that to San Diego without question, and some other teams as well, but they would be a bit more disputed.
--- Quote ---Seriously, the Pats had a great regular season but so far they can't even hold a candle to the '72 Dolphins who are Superbowl Champions.
--- End quote ---
Umm...I'm pretty sure they can hold a candle. That's what they're doing right now. They've got the flamethrower for lighting it too.
I do hope they win the Super Bowl. That will put an end* to the discussion. Being such a dominant team, I think they deserve it. If they don't do it now, someone will do it in the future, at some point in time.
*You'll still have Miami fans and former Miami players saying they're equal, but the 19-0 vs 17-0 will be an undeniable fact.
hypernova:
Just found this, to articulate on Drew's comment earlier about Miami's schedule.
--- Quote ---The way New England went about perfection was far more impressive than the 1972 Dolphins perfect season. First and foremost, their predecessor’s opponents pieced together a 70-108-4 combined record, and they faced only two teams with a winning record. On the other hand, the Patriots opponents went 94-89, and they faced six teams that finished with a winning record.
--- End quote ---
edit: how did this guy come up with an odd number for the Pat's opponents' record?
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on December 31, 2007, 03:50:08 pm ---Even at their current age they'll destroy you, your dog, and your extended family.
--- End quote ---
I guess that Tommy has been right all this time ... pitbulls aren't the deadly menace that the media makes them out to be ... Dick Butkus is!
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