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Zebidee:
I should add, before anyone else wants to have a go at me inappropriately (this includes saint)

I have nothing but respect for saint and his rules.

Despite what some have implied, I have not provided any links to anyone selling things.  Someone else did. and that was removed (appropriately).  But I have not broken any "forum rules" here at all.

But that doesn't change that this is a public forum.  In fact, that is WHY saint has his rules, and WHY he applies them.

Now please, stop hitting me.

polaris:
im not gonna hit you, youre hitting yourself by being pedantic, but if saint says something, its inherently appropriate as its his site. :cheers:
Zebidee:
go jump mate
SavannahLion:

--- Quote from: Zebidee on October 12, 2007, 11:16:39 am ---I should add, before anyone else wants to have a go at me inappropriately (this includes saint)

I have nothing but respect for saint and his rules.

But that doesn't change that this is a public forum.  In fact, that is WHY saint has his rules.

Now please, stop hitting me.

--- End quote ---


--- Quote from: Zebidee on October 12, 2007, 08:03:51 am ---To stop me, or anyone else, talking about issues like this on a public forum would at best be limiting free speech (I think there is something in the US constitution about that), or at worst pandering to the interests of those that sell such multi-game machines (eg ebay and the companies that make/sell them).

I may be nieve, but I don't think that Saint is like that.

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Why are you ignoring the fact that this is not a public forum? Like FrizzleFried mentions this is a private forum, not a public. People need to realize that, technically, nearly every forum and BBS you find are operated on private servers, not public run servers. Forums running on those servers are private. Someone owns the forum. Just because the owners allow public access, that does not automatically make them public forums. You're confusing the context of private and public.

Public access does not equate to public freedom.

It's interesting when people squawk about freedom of speech and public forums and all that related jazz.

Here's a few things of interest.

Restriction of freedom of speech only applies to the government and the ability of people to have freedom of speech in that context. In other words, the U.S. government cannot suppress my ability to freely publish a newspaper about almost any topic I choose. The government also cannot suppress my ability to distribute this publishing on public property. Public property, as defined in this context, is generally property owned by the government. Sidewalks, parks, and the property of some government buildings are good examples. However, there is nothing preventing me from kicking some asshat who might come into my home or business shouting antisemitic comments. This is exactly the same protection that Saint and his private forum enjoy.

Come to think of it, if you're going to be citing the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, at least know what they say.

From the Bill of Rights:

--- Quote ---Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

--- End quote ---

Notice that nowhere does it state that Saint specifically has to allow us freedom of speech, only Congress.

Lastly, you attempted to apply the laws of your country to a privately owned and operated website that may or may not be in the U.S. How ridiculous would it look if I, who might live in isles, find that Saint broke the laws of my country and try to force Saint to comply? For example, on all of the forums I own or run there is usually a cardinal rule that I do not allow advertisements attempting to sell products or services. One day, someone attempted to sell products on one of the forums. Long story short, I ended up banning his ass. I got an email from him stating that he was an Indian native and that it was against federal law to suppress his ability to advertise on my website. I blew him off. Then I got an email from a lawyer ::) stating the same. I wrote back an insulting email. It eventually escalated to my admin and the server owner. We all blew him and his "lawyer" off. This guy tripped up on a lot of details on the law he was trying to cite and how it was applied. Didn't help that the idiot and his "lawyer" both had the same originating IP in the emails.


Everyone is here because it is a privilege, not a right. We can say what we say because it is a privilege. Don't confuse the two.
polaris:

--- Quote from: Zebidee on October 12, 2007, 11:24:16 am ---go jump mate

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whatever dude, youre walking down tranqhair and pbj's road at the moment, see where it takes you. :dunno
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