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stupid pit bulls
lokki:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 12, 2007, 10:34:39 am ---lokki, you know why pit bulls aren't on that list? They don't bite. They attack. There is a difference. A bite is like a punch... an attack is beating the piss out of someone.
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Not sure I agree, I agree more with the theory that when they do attack they are very good at it.
I would more worried about being bitten by a Rottweiler (more likely) than being killed by a Pit Bull (less likely to happen).
ChadTower:
Rottweilers definitely have a worse record but they can stop themselves. They have a middle ground - a bite and back off - that the pit bull just doesn't have. When a pit bull goes it goes all out - you have to injure or kill it to stop it.
Man, I don't know how I'd handle a loose pit bull around the block. I feel for you on that one. I'd probably be harrassing selectmen to enact at least a leash/enclosure law on dangerous breeds, and if there is no dangerous breed distinction, I'd be lobbying for that too.
tommy, I trust that you believe what you say. I would never trust that the dog actually is as safe as you believe. No one wants to believe their dog can harm someone. Every animal, people included, have a basic nature. You can train that animal to suppress certain parts of it but it is never truly gone. Any competent trainer would tell you this straight out - don't ever expect training to fully eliminate the nature of the beast. It just happens that part of the basic nature of a pit bull is extreme violence. Not all of it but it is there and it will always be there no matter how well you train the dog.
ahofle:
Instinct cannot be 'untrained' in one animal's lifetime.
You may well have a well-trained pit bull that will never snap, but using your own logic how can that possibly translate into all other pit bulls not being dangerous? You're telling everyone not to make blanket statements about pit bulls, and then use your one example to make a blanket statement that they are not dangerous dogs.
ChadTower:
The thing that scares most people about pit bulls is the random nature of how they snap - you don't know why it happens. They don't attack their owners or people they are familiar with (most of the time). It will happen when you're walking down the street and some person passes by... the dog will just go off and start mauling the person. Maybe the person has the scent of another dog on him, maybe the person is giving off a confusing scent himself, but you just don't know why it happens.
shardian:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 12, 2007, 11:01:31 am ---Man, I don't know how I'd handle a loose pit bull around the block. I feel for you on that one. I'd probably be harrassing selectmen to enact at least a leash/enclosure law on dangerous breeds, and if there is no dangerous breed distinction, I'd be lobbying for that too.
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I live in a subdivision with a homeowners association. A few of us have discussed the loose dogs with the President, and it basically comes down to this: Since a leash ordinance was not in the original Association rules, it will be near impossible to add it because 75% of the homeowners would have to show up and vote on it. We barely get 20-25 people to show up for the annual meeting to vote and set fees.
And yeah, the guy is like most Pit Bull owners. he just doesn't fathom why people would be uncomfortable with a Pit bull running around unchecked.
Side story, we did have one dog in the neighborhood that was territorial and aggressive to passersby. He was a mix breed, but I could see some rott in him. He almost attacked me on the way to the mailbox when we first moved there. I brought this up to the owner one day hoping he would get the hint that an aggressive dog should be on a leash. His response: "eh, he's a good dog once you get to know him. Just call him by name sternly when he growls and approaches." What a ---smurfing--- tard ass. Does he not realize that if the wrong person walks by and smells a lawsuit, they will sue his ass after getting attacked? Anyways, I did eventually earn the dogs trust and even got the point he'd walk up wagging his tail and let me pet him. Still, he bit some lady one day that didn't know how to respect his turf. As the president of the HOA said, he just "disappeared" one day after that. ;)
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