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stupid pit bulls
tommy:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 12, 2007, 10:22:01 am ---
And yet there are many instance of good pit bull snaps for "no visible reason".
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The dog was not trained right or at all. Most people don't know how to train a dog. Training a dog is not getting him to give you his paw and sit, so now that means he has been trained? Nope. Trust me, if these dogs were trained they would not be acting this way.
You should invest some time in the show "The Dog Whisperer" and you will learn alot. Then come back and talk to me.
lokki:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 10, 2007, 07:12:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on October 10, 2007, 07:05:06 pm ---Fact: There are more Golden Retriever bites reported each year than Pit Bull bites, they aren't as dramatic so they don't get news coverage...
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So? How many of the Golden Retriever injuries are permanent and debilitating? We're not talking about bites. We're talking about attacks. How many golden retrievers are there in comparison? Find a per animal type stat and it will mean something. What % of pit bulls attack vs what % of golden retrievers?
--- Quote ---...I don't own a Bull Terrier nor am I interested in owning one but to label the entire breed as "evil" is ludicrous. It's the owners who are the asshats.
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Most Severe Bites By Breed. (Chow Chow and Golden Retriever are at the top)
http://www.dapbt.org/bite_statistics_study.htm
But to be fair
Pit bulls take the lead on Fatalities.
http://enhs.umn.edu/6120/bites/dogbitefatal.html
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 12, 2007, 10:29:10 am ---The dog was not trained right or at all. Most people don't know how to train a dog. Training a dog is not getting him to give you his paw and sit, so now that means he has been trained? Nope. Trust me, if these dogs were trained they would not be acting this way.
You should invest some time in the show "The Dog Whisperer" and you will learn alot. Then come back and talk to me.
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When I was a kid my family bred and trained hunting dogs. Duck tollers. There is a breed/type that is universally credited as having been developed by my great grandfather and we were still breeding and training them when I was a kid. I have a lot of experience training dogs. Dozens of them.
I agree that most dogs are very poorly trained. That is not usually the issue when a normally docile dog snaps viciously for no reason. That's just the dog having a mind of its own that we don't have insight into. A single bite is bad training. A sustained attack, which is usually the case with pit bulls, is the dog being independent and proper training isn't going to prevent that. It reduces the risk but you cannot eliminate the nature of a breed.
lokki, you know why pit bulls aren't on that list? They don't bite. They attack. There is a difference. A bite is like a punch... an attack is beating the piss out of someone.
tommy:
You can prevent attacks from even getting into the dogs mind. I trained my dog since he was 6 weeks old, it's not in his nature anymore.
A junkie would reach for a needle out of habit or from that's all he knows. Would you do that if you never had the chance to try it? Same difference. You wouldn't know or care what it's all about if you never had the chance. Same thing with dogs and attacking. It was stopped from day one and it is no longer a part of his brain.
I had my dog around an aggressive Shepard, the Shepard was not trained well and he was all up in my dogs face growling and just way too close it would seem to be in a pits face, but my dog would not do a thing, nothing wrong was going on in his mind to make him act any differently.
Trust me man, you think i wold have this dog in my house if i was not sure about him.
shardian:
My neighbor has a Pitt Bull...well it appears he has two now. Anyways, it is close to a year old, and it is a very sweet dog. It plays with their little boy and is super gentle with him, even though the kid is pretty much beating the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of the dog. I can't help but feel uneasy around that dog, because you never know what will set it off. There is no leash law in my area, and the dog just hangs around the block.
I understand the fact that any dog can snap, but there are two things that make Pitt Bulls a special case.
1. A normal breed of dog usually is set of for a reason. Pitts can just go.
2. When a normal dog snaps, odds are you can defend yourself, or get out with minor injuries. When a pit snaps, you are almost guaranteed to be severely injured - maybe even killed.
Needless to say, I like the people, but will be glad when they move and take their "nice" dog out of my neighborhood and far away from my little girl in about a year. If a loose Pit bull - or any dog for that matter - ever harmed my kid and I happened to know whose dog it was, that person is gonna feel the pain ten fold.
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