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stupid pit bulls
tommy:
You can take any dog and leave it outside with no food or water for days and abuse the dog and it will react the same as any pit bull.
Why should i have to suffer when you guys want to outlaw these dogs when I'm responsible with the breed and understand how to treat them and train them so they can act like any other fun loving dog you see everyday? These dogs are the smartest dogs I've ever been around when you treat them well.
I think the main reason dogs act badly is when they are left outside for long periods of time with nothing to do and they forget how to interact with anything that comes near it.
bfauska:
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--- Quote from: tommy on October 10, 2007, 08:33:49 pm ---If all pitbulls are man-eating dogs then all black people love to rob and steal. It's a silly thing to think let alone post on a forum.
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HUH?!? :dunno
How about this one: Remember when the Ford Explorer had the recall on the tires because they were failing and causing accidents that killed a “few” people? Odds are I wouldn’t have had a fatal accident, but I sure didn’t think twice about replacing them for a more reliable tire. Not worth the risk.
I let my kids (13 and 10) play with firecrackers on the Fourth of July, (with supervision) knowing that there is a remote chance they could get hurt. I would never do the same with a stick of dynamite though.
Pit Bulls should be illegal to own, and breed. Who would this hurt anyway?
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Should we make dynamite (or other high-explosives) completely un-available and dispose of every piece left, or continue allowing people who know how to use it responsibly to have access to it and use it when appropriate?
I do see the similarity, between the dynamite/firecracker analogy to the dog debate, but I have a strong opinion against rules that treat symptoms instead of causes.
Jeff AMN:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 11, 2007, 05:04:24 pm ---You can take any dog and leave it outside with no food or water for days and abuse the dog and it will react the same as any pit bull.
Why should i have to suffer when you guys want to outlaw these dogs when I'm responsible with the breed and understand how to treat them and train them so they can act like any other fun loving dog you see everyday? These dogs are the smartest dogs I've ever been around when you treat them well.
I think the main reason dogs act badly is when they are left outside for long periods of time with nothing to do and they forget how to interact with anything that comes near it.
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I don't buy it. The same dog that about ripped my friend's face off was a pampered, well-trained, indoor dog. The thing just snapped, plain and simple.
shmokes:
The dynamite thing is kind of funny, cos it just so happens that dynamite is regulated in a way similar to what I laid out above. People can use it, but it has strict liability. It doesn't matter if you know, or should have known that it was going to cause some crazy ass damage.
And Chad, the difference is the criminal penalties. Owning a pitbull without liability insurance would be illegal. People would get away with it all the time, but when people started doing six months in jail after their pitbull bit someone, you can bet they'd never own another pitbull again. And neither would their friends, I'd wager. And the people who did have them would be damned careful about keeping them out of trouble. It would have some effect. What is the alternative? Banning all pitbulls? Perspective! Start with alcohol. It causes a helluva lot more violent deaths than pit bulls do. More per capita too, I'd wager. The vast majority of pit bulls are just well behaved dogs. Tommy's right about them being smart (though they've got nothing on border collies). It just don't make sense to ban pit bulls outright because you can't keep yourself from watching the 10:00 news. It is not the crisis that your local news station would like you to think it is.
tommy:
--- Quote from: Jeff AMN on October 11, 2007, 05:17:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: tommy on October 11, 2007, 05:04:24 pm ---You can take any dog and leave it outside with no food or water for days and abuse the dog and it will react the same as any pit bull.
Why should i have to suffer when you guys want to outlaw these dogs when I'm responsible with the breed and understand how to treat them and train them so they can act like any other fun loving dog you see everyday? These dogs are the smartest dogs I've ever been around when you treat them well.
I think the main reason dogs act badly is when they are left outside for long periods of time with nothing to do and they forget how to interact with anything that comes near it.
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I don't buy it. The same dog that about ripped my friend's face off was a pampered, well-trained, indoor dog. The thing just snapped, plain and simple.
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People act crazy and kill all the time.
We don't put all people in jail when a few get out of control. You need to act accordingly on a case by case basis just like anything else.
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