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boykster:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on October 10, 2007, 07:05:06 pm ---Fact:  There are more Golden Retriever bites reported each year than Pit Bull bites,  they aren't as dramatic so they don't get news coverage...

...I don't own a Bull Terrier nor am I interested in owning one but to label the entire breed as "evil" is ludicrous.  It's the owners who are the asshats.
 

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Fact: there are a hell of a lot more golden's than there are pit bulls, so I would bet that as a % of dog bite/attack reports, the pit bull owns a larger % based on total population.

I do agree however that it is the owners who are the asshats, and not the dogs.  Especially when it comes to a dog breed like pit bulls; they ARE aggressive by nature.


--- Quote from: shmokes on October 10, 2007, 04:40:25 pm ---Dogs are dumb and ---smurfing--- obnoxious anyway.  Get a cat.

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Don't even get me started on cats..... :banghead:

bfauska:
My suggestion of stiffer penalties was not as a re-reimbursement for the attacked or family's thereof.  The suggestion was to set a precedent that the asshat dog owners of the future would hopefully pay attention to.  Similar to punishment for any crime, while some would argue that the idea is rehabilitation,  many of the people who would commit a crime in the first place are deterred by the thought of serving jail time.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Samstag on October 10, 2007, 05:22:48 pm ---Rabbits are where it's at these days.

Mine will only bite your face off if you're asking for it.  So don't mess with his favorite blanket if you know what's good for you.

--- End quote ---

My wife's grandpa is missing half of one of his fingers, which he lost while reaching for a rabbit that he had chased into a hole in the ground.   ;D

vorghagen:

--- Quote from: boykster on October 10, 2007, 07:23:26 pm ---
Don't even get me started on cats..... :banghead:

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So, boykster, every considered getting a pet cat? I hear they're lovely to have around...

shmokes:
I think that a fairly reasonable approach would be to require liability insurance to own any animal designated as a "dangerous animal" (maybe with a component for automatically designating other animals as "dangerous" once they've attacked/bitten someone).  Then you could impose strict liability on owners of "dangerous" animals, so if their dog attacked someone there would be no question of whether the dog was provoked, or whether the owner was really great, but this was just a freak accident.  The liability would be automatic.  This would then need to be enforced with criminal penalties of fines and jail time if a person's dangerous animal attacks and the person isn't insured.  It would also make it so that people who are attacked will generally not be left with no way to recover damages simply because the dog's owner was an unemployed piece of white trash.

It seems like this would solve most of the problems.  White trash people really are commonly attracted to pit bulls specifically for that dog's violent nature, and they will breed aggression into the dogs.  Much of this would stop, though, and demand for dogs like this would go down.  It goes without saying that insurance for a rottweiler or pit bull would be more expensive than for another breed known for aggression like cocker spaniels, because the payout for the damage done by a pit bull is so much greater.  Fewer people who can't responsibly train and care for a dog would get a pit bull because it just wouldn't be worth the cost.  And it goes without saying that insurance companies would now have a lot of say in what dog you could buy.  An owner whose dogs have bitten in the past would probably become uninsurable and could therefore only own pets not designated as dangerous, without facing stiff criminal penalties.  Or maybe insurance companies would require significant investments in professional obedience training and things of that nature.

Anyway, it seems like this would be a better solution than an outright ban.  Aggression can be deliberately bred into any type of dog.  If people can't have pit bulls and rottweilers, they'll simply corrupt some other breed.


edit: really strange typo.

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