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Blind people sue Target because they can't access Target's website.
ChadTower:
Plus, if approached, a retail store will assign an employee to help a disabled person out during their shopping trip.
tommy:
--- Quote from: patrickl on October 07, 2007, 08:19:25 am ---That's where you are wrong. Blind people are perfectly capable to use websites on their own. It just takes some consideration from the site builders.
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I may be wrong, i'm not blind and i never had to imagine having to do anything without being able to see, but that's how i see it while able to see.
shmokes:
Blind people can and do use websites unaided. Who the ---fudgesicle--- are these helpers you're talking about, anyway? Some blind guy lives alone. What's he gonna do, go next door and ask the neighbors to come over and help him order something online? Why would he need help from somebody to navigate a compliant website? What is so difficult about typing iPod into the search box, checking the price, clicking add to cart, clicking checkout and typing in your address and credit card information (which can be saved for ease of use in subsequent purchases)? If your software will tell you what the buttons do and what the fields in a form are, that's all the blind person needs. And if he can immediately jump to the correct button (think of how the search feature in Firefox works) because they use standardized alt-tags, he could conceivably navigate the site more efficiently than you and I do using a mouse (think of how knowing keyboard commands dramatically speeds up your computer use).
tommy:
--- Quote from: shmokes on October 07, 2007, 11:01:41 am --- Who the ---fudgesicle--- are these helpers you're talking about, anyway?
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Family, friends, people who care about this blind person and know that trying to live your life blind is not an easy thing to do and even not a thing that is possible while not being able to see.
--- Quote from: shmokes on October 07, 2007, 11:01:41 am --- Why would he need help from somebody to navigate a compliant website?
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A compliant site is just an aid, not a solve all problems for the blind. You can't possibly think not being able to see is not going to handicap a person form doing everyday things we take for granted, like shopping online or otherwise.
What I'm saying is at some point, right, some point, someone is going to have to help this person that can see, right? And if a blind person cannot do all of this on his own (like i believe they can't) then they have no need to be on a site if they can't see.
What's next, being able to drive blind with a braille steering wheel and a voice saying, "stop, turn left, hey, watch out, you're going to crash!!"
patrickl:
--- Quote from: tommy on October 07, 2007, 10:45:08 am ---
--- Quote from: patrickl on October 07, 2007, 08:19:25 am ---That's where you are wrong. Blind people are perfectly capable to use websites on their own. It just takes some consideration from the site builders.
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I may be wrong, i'm not blind and i never had to imagine having to do anything without being able to see, but that's how i see it while able to see.
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It's really simple. Go to the site and imagine you can only read the text. That's how a blind person will read the site. Works perfectly fine (if the site builder doesn't make it unnecessarily difficult by poor website design)
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