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Author Topic: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet. Now with CABINET LIGHTING.  (Read 37665 times)

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2008, 10:21:15 pm »
OK I found the receipt for when I bought the laminate last year.  It is Wilsonart Victorian Mahogany, # 7583-58.  It wasn't cheap - about $50 for a 4'x8' sheet. 

Also, I have put up a site to document the progress.  http://arcadereplay.santoro.com/

edit: corrected product number
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2008, 10:01:30 pm »
No progress this weekend due to family obligations.  I was able to update the blog a little with some details on my ideas for how I might 'bling' this thing out a bit.
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2008, 05:50:39 am »
Nice to see some progress Santoro!

Love the design, I think im going to go for a slim for my next upright.

I had a look at your blog and saw what you are intending to do with the cold cathodes. If I was you I would use strips of very bright red LEDs instead. That way you could control them with your LED Wiz to give a pulsing/throbbing effect during the attract mode etc. I thought it may have been possible to make a throbbing/pulsing affect with cold cathodes but I have since been informed that it isnt a good idea to modulate the inverters by changing the output intensity. Anyway, just a thought. Looking forward to seeing some more  :)

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2008, 07:32:05 pm »
Looking good. I am curious, if you bought 4'x8' sheets of laminate, why are you deciding to fight with a seam in the middle of the cab? Was the grain on the laminate running the wrong way?

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2008, 07:38:03 pm »
Looking good. I am curious, if you bought 4'x8' sheets of laminate, why are you deciding to fight with a seam in the middle of the cab? Was the grain on the laminate running the wrong way?

if you mean the bits that are half laminated, they are the insides as i understand it.
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2008, 09:50:31 pm »
Yes, those are the insides.   Very little of that laminate will be visible.

I will have a look at LED strips Franco.  If they are bright and deep enough it would be pretty cool to work them into the LED-WIZ flashing effects.  Good idea.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2008, 01:45:53 am »
Looking good. I am curious, if you bought 4'x8' sheets of laminate, why are you deciding to fight with a seam in the middle of the cab? Was the grain on the laminate running the wrong way?

if you mean the bits that are half laminated, they are the insides as i understand it.
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DUH. Makes perfect sense that way. Carry on.

@Polaris, yeah, when I don't feel like I'm getting to do much on my projects I tend to stray, I've been poking around a bit lately and I'll be getting the artwork for "The Reactivator" printed soon, so I'll have to update my thread. I also loose motivation when I try to look through all the unread threads that I've missed. I have like 120 pages on my "view all unread topics" page. When I was a regular I'd keep up with it and now I can't bring myself to just mark them all as read and start fresh. I'm trying to figure out a way to whittle away the ones that I'm not interested in and just hit the highlights, but there is no easy way to mark stuff as read without opening them all.

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You sir are part of the reason I'm lurking around these parts again. It's great to see another set of tokens in the works, and I enjoy seeing familiar projects being continued.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2008, 06:55:04 pm »
Coming along.  I gave up on using biscuits - the parts were too far apart to make it worth dealing with.
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2008, 06:57:15 pm »
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2008, 02:11:54 pm »
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2008, 05:36:55 am »
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2008, 10:11:43 am »
Very nice profile, I'm contemplating doing a slim cab too or else a cocktail cabinet as I already have a fullsize standup. Good luck with the build!
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2008, 11:34:58 am »
The more I look at the design the more I think I need to round out the Control Panel a little bit for consistency. 

I am horrible at curves in sketchup so I may plan it the old fashioned-way - with a cardboard mockup.  I am not sure.
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2008, 02:43:24 am »
It's special order Wilsonart from Lowes.  I will try to find the number for you.

When I tried Home Depot and Lowes, they didn't have it and couldn't get it. (ie: No special orders. Only what they sell).

So I'm still looking.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2008, 08:52:23 pm »
Sorry to hear that, custom orders must be an east coast thing or something. *shrug*


I made a little progress this weekend.

(To avoid rattles and enhance the bass response I always attach my sub woofers firmly to the cabinet.  Because the bottom rolls out on this cabinet, I had no firm floor for the sub to be mounted to so I had to get creative. The sub woofer is mounted directly to the inside wall - I screwed right into it from the outside of the cabinet. These countersunk screws will be laminated over and won’t be seen.)

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2009, 07:42:54 pm »
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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2009, 08:48:04 am »
Work's busy forcing me to work late a lot, famly life is insane, it's 4 degrees out, and the machine is sitting in my garage in the exact state it is in the last pics.

I start work the 2nd warm day I get, with the first set aside to clean the garage.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2009, 09:14:13 am »
I was able to do some work on the cabinet finally.

I created the speaker panel.  The hole is a little rough (my 11 year old son cut it out) .... but it will be painted black and covered by a black cloth grille.



I also laminated the sides. For me this is always the most rewarding part... because it feels 'almost done' with the sides finished.   Some will note that I didn't cut the T-molding slot yet, this is on purpose.  I tend to mistakenly hit the edges of the cab and damage the slots so I save it for the latest time possible. 

So far I am thrilled about how it's coming out... It is looking exactly like the sketchup plans.






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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2009, 12:19:25 pm »
HOLY COW! :notworthy: :applaud:

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2009, 01:02:56 pm »
AWESOME.  Do you know how you are goig to handle the lamination with respect to your CP?  It looks like you are going for art on top but if you have to laminate the box, how are you going to deal with the cross-section of the laminate showing?  Or are you planning to mitre the cuts somehow?  Not that anyone would ever notice if you just laminated the sides of the box first and the front panel last so the cross-sections were on the sides and pretty much out of visible range... 

I'm starting to wish I went the lamination route instead of trying to stain and finish mine.  I've got 2 coats of poly on there and I need at least 3 or 4 more with lots of fine sanding in between to get it looking how I want it to.  Plus, my CP box isn't as accurate as I'd like it to be but I'm not cutting it a third time (I mitred every cut on the tablesaw).

Also, what day did you possibly get to work outside???  I live in Westfield and it has been freezing lately.   :cheers:

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2009, 01:24:51 pm »
Just out of curiosity, what is the depth of the base of the cab? Mine is like 450mm, was wondering if it was enough.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2009, 01:32:10 pm »
Looking  :afro:

I do love the profile, seriously. There is nothing I would change about it.

You have got to love the laminate. Every project I see with laminate looks the nuts. I'm dying to play with some but I think it will be a long time until I build a project where I can use some.

In the mean time i'll bask in the glory of your cabs  :)


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« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2009, 05:37:59 pm »
Also, what day did you possibly get to work outside???  I live in Westfield and it has been freezing lately.   :cheers:

Westfield, crap that's 20 mins away.. when it's done come over for a beer play and a few games!

I worked on Saturday evening, it was about 42 out.  I knew I was taking a risk that the laminate cement might not work great, but the label said something like "best results when used above 60 degrees," not "must be used above 60."  I was going stir-crazy from being in the house for so long and took a shot and it was fine.  It is on there really tight.

The CP is still in the design stage, what I have on the sketchup plan is not necessarily the final design.  I may so something like my Mamenation CP with a not-so-square design:



On that panel I used PartsExpress black speaker vinyl and unless you touched it, you wouldn't know it wasn't laminate.  Stay tuned, I will post more as I get my CP plans firmed up.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2009, 07:05:46 am »
theatitalian asked a few questions in PM, I will answer them here so everyone can benefit..

I was wondering what was the depth size of your base?

The cabinet depth at the bottom is 18 1/2"

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I was also wondering what was the size of your CP shelf (the part that supports the CP).
7 1/4"

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How does it feel? Does it feel sturdy?

It is not as sturdy as I'd like to be honest.  You will notice from the pictures I have already reworked the bottom once to allow the wheels to be farther apart.  With the old base it was like a seesaw.  In it's current state it will tip over backwards if pushed hard, but there seems to be little risk of tipping forward. 

I am hoping that adding weight to the bottom helps remedy this but if if does not I will be forced to take the wheels off and go with feet/levelers to give it a broader stance.

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Re: "Arcade Replay" - Slim LCD cabinet - Improved Design; Construction Begins
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2009, 05:02:16 am »
It tips backward? Really? If anything I thought it would tip forward!

I am sure adding some weight (i.e. the PC and maybe a 2.1 surround sound system) will help. If not, the levellers (and putting it against a wall) will definitely help!

Thanks for the valuable info! This thing will look so slick when it's finished!

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Had some nice weather today so I made some nice progress.

Slot cutter bit:



The T-molding slot is cut:



T-Molding!



T-Molding being applied



T-Molding Notched for the going around the corner.



You can see there was a little 'extra' t-molding on either side.  I purposely bought it so it was slightly big. 



Trimming with a razor takes care of it nicely.





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T-Molding done:




I needed to beef up the sliding shelves to accept the front panel.  You really can't drill into the edge of MDF so I attached hardwood that I could drill into.




The Keyboard Drawer Pull.



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Done for the day:



Drawer:



KB Drawer



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Next steps:
1) Stiffen up the roll-out box.  It is wobbly right now.
2) After cutting the hole for the coin door I will be laminating the drawer faces.  I will probably put t-molding on the edges of both, we will see.
3) create a monitor mounting system
4) create a system for mounting the tinted safety glass

I am saving building the CP for last.  I want to give it a LOT of thought.
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Wow!  This thing is coming along VERY nice.  Every time I read through this thread I keep thinking laminate is definitely the way to go - it looks great and the t-molding finishes it perfectly.

Are you doing anything crazy with the monitor like rotating it?  I'm planning to motorize the rotation of the monitor in my slim upright (whenever I can get back to it) since 4:3 (or even 5:4) LCDs won't fill the space.  I'm also rethinking my base after seeing yours - I love that the entire computer can slide in and out for easy access.   :cheers:

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Thanks!  I am very happy so far.

I didn't do a rotating monitor for two reasons - first, because I don't have any metalwork/hydraulic/servo skills, I didn't think I could pull it off without it looking 'ghetto.'  If I rigged up some manual lazy-susan setup and the monitor was the slightest bit tilted while playing It would have driven me batty every minute. It is very important to me that when it's done it looks like it could have been mass-produced.  I want people to say "really?" when I tell them I made it.

Secondly was the family-friendly factor.  My wife would never turn it on if she had to adjust the monitor before playing a game. 
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That's a really nice design. I like the slide out entire front panel (I'm guessing for access to the pc).

And that laminate looks great. My parents actually used wilsonart lam (in a granite shade) for their countertops, and when I heard that, I thought "Yeach!"

But, once it was in, and trimmed out, its REALLY looks good.

Same with yours. :applaud:

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Thanks!  I am very happy so far.

I didn't do a rotating monitor for two reasons - first, because I don't have any metalwork/hydraulic/servo skills, I didn't think I could pull it off without it looking 'ghettto.'  If I rigged up some manual lazy-susan setup and the monitor was the slightest bit tilted while playing It would have driven me batty every minute. It is very important to me that when it's done it looks like it could have been mass-produced.  I want people to say "really?" when I tell them I made it.

Secondly was the family-friendly factor.  My wife would never turn it on if she had to adjust the monitor before playing a game. 

I am hoping to figure out the auto-rotate that a bunch of people around here did.  There is a plug-in for MaLa that will start the motor for rotating the monitor upon selecting a game so no one would have to figure it out themselves.  It looks really cool.  I have ZERO skills in this department too but I'm going to wing it.   ;D

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I haven't read here lately as much as I used to.. but the last one I saw involved a guy making his own GEARS!  If there is a proven middle ground between making custom gears and code and manual rotation, I might consider it. I will search a bit.

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I haven't read here lately as much as I used to.. but the last one I saw involved a guy making his own GEARS!  If there is a proven middle ground between making custom gears and code and manual rotation, I might consider it. I will search a bit.

Off of the top of my head, look up projects by these guys:  psychotech, weisshaupt, DaOldMan, csa3d and Cornchip.  I think they figured out the automation one way or another.  csa3d documented everything with tons of pictures and details.  I think anyone who could build a working arcade machine could figure it out (at least I hope that's the case).  Look at THIS thread - csa3d links to a lot of different stuff that is fun to read...

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I read a few of those threads at lunch today... as I suspected, rotating monitors require a significant amount of engineering time.  With unlimited time, I probably could do it, but I don't have a lot of free time.  (As evidenced by the fact that I had the plans done for this cab done in Oct 2007 and am still am not done.)

Thanks for the leads though.

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Really great work there.  I love the way the laminate works with the t-moulding - looks pretty swish and up-to-date retro (if that makes sense!)

Agree about the rotating monitor - once you've finished the cab, see if it bothers you then maybe go for it.

I've tried it before and before I abandoned the idea I must have spent the same amount of time and getting it working as the rest of the cab put together!

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  • Boycott Quarters!!!
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looks pretty swish and up-to-date retro (if that makes sense!)

Makes perfect sense, and that is exactly what I was going for.   

Thanks for all the feedback everyone!

  
 

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