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New Product: Micro-Leaf™ Arcade Pushbutton Switches - GroovyGameGear
patrickl:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on September 25, 2007, 05:36:32 pm ---Looks like the SN10-QACF from Vabsco.
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Yeah, but then with a piece of plastic stuck to it so can be placed in a button.
I guess I created a "micro leaf" joystick already for my PocketGalaga
RandyT:
--- Quote from: patrickl on September 25, 2007, 06:15:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: pinballjim on September 25, 2007, 05:36:32 pm ---Looks like the SN10-QACF from Vabsco.
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Yeah, but then with a piece of plastic stuck to it so can be placed in a button.
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You are aware that the leaf switch adapters are also a switch "with a piece of plastic stuck to it so can be placed in a button", yes? It's only because these have dried up and I have been asked numerous times about them that I spent the money and effort on this project. No one is making either of you switch your buttons or threatening your world in any way. Why react so vehemently to a new option being presented to folks who might, unlike yourselves, appreciate being given the option?
--- Quote ---I guess I created a "micro leaf" joystick already for my PocketGalaga
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I'd say you created a nail with two switches nailed next to it. See how that works? ;)
FWIW, I just spent $6000 on a laser cutting machine just so I could offer these types of things to the community. It will be a long time before I see that returned, if ever, so that probably makes me foolish. Be happy there are people foolish enough to keep spending the money and time to do these types of things that you don't think need to be done.
RandyT
fixedpigs:
--- Quote from: RandyT on September 25, 2007, 04:04:42 pm ---
I also want to point out that the Micro-Leafs do still make a very subtle click, but not appreciably louder than the sound of two leaf switch contacts hitting together. The difference between these and a standard microswitch is huge in that regard.
RandyT
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is it quieter than the sound of a mouse click...?
keep up the good work randy... :cheers:
RandyT:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on September 25, 2007, 05:00:57 pm ---Randy, yeah yeah, supply & demand... ;D
"and to account for different panel thicknesses" Not really, leaf buttons do this. There are long and short buttons. Shorts for metal panels, longs for wood. I'm just throwing the idea out there, I don't expect something like this to happen because there just isn't the demand for it.
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I was thinking along the lines of the home builders. There is no set standard for panel thickness in this group. Too many different materials, coverings, etc. But I'll still think about it and see if there's a simple to build solution.
--- Quote ---This brings up a question, Randy, did you do any stress testing like repeating button machine for 10 minutes :)
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Heh. I played a bunch of games over a couple of weeks and probably have more like hours on them. Earlier I mentioned sourcing. I have confirmation from the manufacturer's rep that these specific switches have 1,000,000 mechanical cycle ratings, just like regular microswitches do. If they didn't I would have kept looking for another supplier. I could have sourced cheaper switches from China, but they could not give me the 1,000,000 mechanical cycle rating I required. Some seem to think these things are all created equal, but they most definitely are not!
--- Quote ---Since the tabs go straight down it looks like it might require a slightly deeper control panel (have to account for the wire and female connector). Would taking a needle nose and bending the tabs to the left (in that pic) be bad? That way quick connects can be taken on and off from the side easily in shallow panels (like cocktails).
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Yes, they do extend downwards, so if you have a very shallow panel, some adjustment would need to be made. More often, lateral space is at a premium so the vertical pins can be a blessing. But I think you could even go as far as clipping the unused NC pin and bending the pins as you like, as long as it's only once.
--- Quote from: fixedpigs on September 25, 2007, 08:23:56 pm ---is it quieter than the sound of a mouse click...?
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Much quieter than the 4 different mice I just compared them to here.
RandyT
whammoed:
--- Quote from: RandyT on September 25, 2007, 07:55:32 pm ---Be happy there are people foolish enough to keep spending the money and time to do these types of things that you don't think need to be done.
RandyT
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I appreciate it Randy! In fact sometimes I resemble that remark. These may or may not be on par with the good old leaf switch button...I have no idea..., but I'd bet money its better than a regualar microswitch. I'm already stocked on leaf buttons and switches but I will probably get one of these to play with on my next order.
Just let me know when you've made my perfect joystic eh?: 8way/4way restrictor switchable by solenoid or other electric means with a balltop and a fire button on the front of the balltop (think Tron cocktail) ;D