New Product: Micro-Leaf™ Arcade Pushbutton Switches - GroovyGameGear

[patrickl]

You have to love the fact that as soon as someone got one and said they work great.... The fighting stopped.   

It lasted until Randy finally came with a straight answer.

I have to admit I still have a hard time accepting that someone like Randy would not know that this choice of actuator is called a lever (as opposed to plunger or roller), but I do accept that this has nothing to do with the issue of the name (which was my point to begin with).

I also think there is a legitimate reason to question the abuse of the word leaf. One of the people claiming the discussion is useless was actually contemplating buying the dreaded "Chinese leaf joysticks" a few weeks ago. Just because of the word leaf in the product name.

If people just wouldn't throw a hissy fit when someone asks a question that is seen as "negative", things would be over a lot faster.

Don't forget that it's the critical people who desire better products that drive the sellers to come up with better products too.

Besides, you have to be pretty damned critical yourself to pay almost $3 for a switch to replace the $0.30 one that you have been using before. Critical people actually create the market. So don't be so overly critical of people being critical.

[RandyT]

I have to admit I still have a hard time accepting that someone like Randy would not know that this choice of actuator is called a lever (as opposed to plunger or roller)...

[patrickl]

What's more silly though, holding the dead horse up claiming it lives or beating it while it's being held up?

[Anubis_au]

So after five pages of ---smurfette----fighting, can someone tell me if these are actualy good?

Randy, I assume these micro-leaf switches work with the novagem buttons?

[Circo]

Well hopefully someone will close this thread and open a review thread.

 

[blueznl]

Just send me a few and I will do an indepth and totally unbiassed review 

[RandyT]

Randy, I assume these micro-leaf switches work with the novagem buttons?

Yes. Tested with EI, NovaGem, HAPP Horizonal, IL and Betson pushbuttons.  They leave plenty of room for the lighting as well.

RandyT

*edit*  Quite a number of these have shipped so I would expect other independent reviews to be forthcoming. 

[metahacker]

So after five pages of ---smurf----fighting, can someone tell me if these are actualy good?

they're wonderful. 

the switch adds nothing undesirable to the experience. 
you are basically tapping the button mechanism and the switch is reading it.    you barely know its there.

UNLIKE the regular microswitches where the little cherry clicker down in there is taking front stage
and making sure you know that there is a little clicking microswitch down there soaking up all your button pushing energy.

these just let the button be what it is and read what youre doing.   much more passive.

you can do the original arcade style 'how fast can i move my finger' style button tapping instead of 'how fast can i click this button'

know what i mean?

plus they fit nicely with those kick ass rgb led boards  


i dont really see the point of using anything else...  these get the job done perfectly, dont make any noise and shouldnt require tweaking or additional physical space.   

standard leaf switches are always great for authenticity and 100% purist accuracy in feel. 
but after installing these i no longer yearn for them.

[Warborg]

What's more silly though, holding the dead horse up claiming it lives or beating it while it's being held up?

Can we say "Gotta get the last word in..."

[More Cowbell]

I, myself, can't wait to order some of these microswitches that act and respond like leaf switches. The name "micro-leaf" seems to fit them perfectly.

[Zero_Hour]

Randy, any idea on an ETA for a joystick version of these Micro-Leaf™ switches?

[polaris]

Randy, any idea on an ETA for a joystick version of these Micro-Leaf™ switches?

he finished them days ago ,he just cant decide on a name for them,

[Avrus]

Randy, any idea on an ETA for a joystick version of these Micro-Leaf™ switches?

he finished them days ago ,he just cant decide on a name for them,

I vote for:

Happy dolphin almost metal switch for better controlling while moving wrist in game.

[Jouster]

Hmmm, how about Joystick Micro-L.e.a.p.h.™ (Little Electronic Activator Pushbutton Hammer)...or something?

Jouster

[leapinlew]

I vote for Super Happy Funtime Megaforce Alpha Stick

[nostrebor]

Yeah, it's hard to use the word "joy" in a product that some folks could potentially get sooooo bitter about.

[FrizzleFried]

My problem is that I need to come up with other stuff I need from GGG because I can in no way justify spending $6.95 on the cheapest shipping for 5 "Micro-leaf" switches...  so when I need other stuff,  I will add these items.

[bfauska]

My problem is that I need to come up with other stuff I need from GGG because I can in no way justify spending $6.95 on the cheapest shipping for 5 "Micro-leaf" switches...  so when I need other stuff,  I will add these items.

Frizzle,

I have a giant list of things I could use from GGG.  How about I PM you my list, you order it and have it and your switches shipped to my house (you pay for everything of course) and I'll pick up the shipping costs to your house from mine for your switches. That way you don't spend a disproportionate amount on shipping and I don't spend anything at all.  Sounds good to me. 

[FrizzleFried]

My problem is that I need to come up with other stuff I need from GGG because I can in no way justify spending $6.95 on the cheapest shipping for 5 "Micro-leaf" switches...  so when I need other stuff,  I will add these items.

Frizzle,

I have a giant list of things I could use from GGG.  How about I PM you my list, you order it and have it and your switches shipped to my house (you pay for everything of course) and I'll pick up the shipping costs to your house from mine for your switches. That way you don't spend a disproportionate amount on shipping and I don't spend anything at all.  Sounds good to me. 

Note I said "NEED" not "WANT" because I too could come up with quite a hefty list of things I "WANT"...unfortunately,  "WANT" doesn't matter all too much right now financially.

[RandyT]

If you only order 6 or fewer switches and that's it, we'll throw them in a small padded envelope, send them "First Class" and only charge you $3.00. We've done that a number of times for small orders in the past.

With postal rates and shipping supplies costing what they do, that's about the best I can do, even for small orders.

RandyT

[bfauska]

Note I said "NEED" not "WANT" because I too could come up with quite a hefty list of things I "WANT"...unfortunately,  "WANT" doesn't matter all too much right now financially.

LAME... I thought it was a great idea.

Although Randy's solution sounds reasonable too, but if anybody else has Frizzle's dilemma my offer stands.

[FrizzleFried]

If you only order 6 or fewer switches and that's it, we'll throw them in a small padded envelope, send them "First Class" and only charge you $3.00. We've done that a number of times for small orders in the past.

With postal rates and shipping supplies costing what they do, that's about the best I can do, even for small orders.

RandyT

How do I take advantage of this deal?  I want 6....

[RandyT]

Just order and drop a line in the comments box saying you want first class.  If it's a small order of small parts, it's no problem shipping that way.


RandyT

[johnperkins21]

I, myself, can't wait to order some of these microswitches that act and respond like leaf switches. The name "micro-leaf" seems to fit them perfectly.

I agree wholeheartedly. Makes me glad I've put off working on my cab until the winter. Now if only Randy had some new 49-ways to go along with these buttons...

While I too am anxiously waiting for the new 49-way sticks and interfaces I don't think that its worth berating Randy about them.

TTFN
Kaytrim

Apparently we disagree here. 

[RetroJames]

Is there a version of this thread with all the hijacks and ninny-bitching removed?


Anywhoo .... Is there any word on joystick compatible versions of these? Love my T-Sticks, hate the T-Clicks.

[Level42]

All I can say is that I tried one of the "leaf switches that fit on microswitch button" on my Centipede and that I replaced it with a micro-leaf after I had done a LOT of tweaking to get the leaf less "tight" feeling, which failed....

That says a lot because I am a leaf-lover.

The best leaf I have so far is the 27 year old one on my Galaxian. Silky sweet.

But the Micro-Leaf is without a doubt the best solution when you want (have to) use a MS-button.

[RetroJames]

All I can say is that I tried one of the "leaf switches that fit on microswitch button" on my Centipede and that I replaced it with a micro-leaf after I had done a LOT of tweaking to get the leaf less "tight" feeling, which failed....

That says a lot because I am a leaf-lover.

The best leaf I have so far is the 27 year old one on my Galaxian. Silky sweet.

But the Micro-Leaf is without a doubt the best solution when you want (have to) use a MS-button.

I really liked the leaf on a micro switch button deals but I'd like to give these a try too.

Really need something for my t-sticks though.

[Tiger-Heli]

Is there a version of this thread with all the hijacks and ninny-bitching removed?

In a thread Randy started?  (You are kidding, right?)

Anywhoo .... Is there any word on joystick compatible versions of these? Love my T-Sticks, hate the T-Clicks.

There's always ejfayel's paper trick.

[RetroJames]

Is there a version of this thread with all the hijacks and ninny-bitching removed?

In a thread Randy started?  (You are kidding, right?)

Anywhoo .... Is there any word on joystick compatible versions of these? Love my T-Sticks, hate the T-Clicks.

There's always ejfayel's paper trick.

Saw that, I may have to give it a shot.

[richyrich888]

Although this thread is now old, just thought i might mention i have just received a bag of these switches which are destined for my new control panel. (current panel has Cherry micro switches   ...have heard as much clicking as i can take !)

Have just fitted one to a standard Happs button and fitted into panel.  Would just like to say THANK YOU to the guy that bothered to source these / mate them with microswitch pushbuttons. Much, much quieter. No click noise at all compared to the cherry microswitch's I've been using. Have also noted a much smoother / lighter button press, without any of the resistance i get from the cherrys.

 1  customer

got exactly what I expected after reading the description in the advert for them on the groovygamegear website:

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=309

I had considered the leaf switch conversion for the happs microswitch buttons which are available here :

http://www.arcadeshop.de/Button-Parts-Leaf--vs-Microswitch_566.html

I will probably try them at a later date, and see how they feel, but for now they lost out on the grounds that they would probably take lots of fiddling with / adjusting.