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CCM:
I'm pretty sure the UFC upper limit is 265.
ChadTower:
Damn... now consider that in a guy that moves like Couture with an NCAA championship background. If he gets control on the ground no one is going to be able to buck or sweep him.
CCM:
Mir is going to need to keep the fight standing up. I would think that if Lesnar has a weakness it would be his stand-up. With his wrestling background he should be a force on the ground.
--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 06, 2007, 09:45:13 am ---And that's going to be damn hard to do to a guy who walked right into an NFL training camp and took every hit they dished out.
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No doubt Lesnar is tough, but taking a hit in an NFL training camp with full pads is a little different than taking a 5oz glove to the bare head. No one really knows what Lesnar's chin is like...
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: CCM on November 06, 2007, 10:48:42 am ---No doubt Lesnar is tough, but taking a hit in an NFL training camp with full pads is a little different than taking a 5oz glove to the bare head. No one really knows what Lesnar's chin is like...
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I disagree. The head is exposed, sure, but the guy is standing and throwing a punch. Now take a 300lb elite athlete, have him run 8 yards like a pulling guard, and put a full force helmet to helmet shot on another guy also running at full speed. A trained puncher can knock you out, certainly, but kinesiologists describe NFL collisions as equivalent to midgrade car accidents in terms of impact.
One shot is clean and precise... the other is a car accident. I'm not sure which is worse but either easily proves a guy can take serious shots.
That isn't even accounting for what happens in a pro wrestling match in terms of head impact to the mat. The guy used to come down on his own head regularly in very ugly ways. Take a look at his botched moonsault at Wrestlemania, and the fact that he got up, as proof that his chin is for real.
CCM:
So any professional football player can walk in to the octagon and take any hits a heavyweight fighter can dish out? A punch, a knee, an elbow?
Teddy Bruschi is going to walk into the octagon and not get knocked out by Fedor, Frank Mir, Tim Sylvia, etc..??
I really don't think being tough and taking hits in the NFL or WWE translates to an automatic iron-jaw in MMA.
All I'm saying is that no one has ever seen Lesnar take a clean shot to the jaw. He may very well have a head like a cinder-block, but it hasn't been proven yet.
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