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diesel cars. NO!
jbox:
While you long-haul drivers are pretty screwed either way ;D, as a city driver issues like zero-energy idle and regenerative breaking are the sorts of technologies people forget when they do their "cost comparison". Those sort of things add up *really* fast if you spend as much time bunny-hopping as you do actually "putting the pedal to the metal". :cheers:
Crax:
My buddy I went to college with works with his cousin who owns GoldenFuelSystems
He drives a diesel jetta and has told me he could get me a good deal on a conversion if I got a diesel vehicle. I've thought about it, but I am just too lazy to go around finding vegetable oil and then filtering it. I wasn't aware that diesel vehicles weren't much worse/better than regular ones.
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on September 24, 2007, 10:32:20 am ---
--- Quote from: shardian on September 24, 2007, 08:33:00 am ---Here in the states, Diesel USED to be cheaper than gasoline. Now it is on average 30 cents higher than gas. Strange too, since diesel is supposed to be easier and cheaper to produce.
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Less demand for it, so less is being produced and the price is higher.
Environmental laws are a factor as well.
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yep, the man wants you to use diesel like he wants you to use alcohol and tobacco...
sac01:
OK, while it might be true about the particulates I'd have to say I have a ford f250 with a powerstroke diesel and I get 22mpg on long highway runs.. I've had the same size/style truck with a gas engine and it got around 10-12mpg....sooooo while a gallon of diesel might put out more particulates than a gallon of gas, if you go almost twice as far on that gallon of diesel, isn't it at least a wash as far as which is doing more enviromental damage?
Same could be said with VW's (of which I also have and have worked on/rebuild over the years) A VW with a TDI (diesel engine) gets around 50mpg... The same car with the gas engine gets 30-35mpg. If you average out the polution to the miles driven I think you'll find that it really dosn't matter.
As has been stated, the real benefits of a diesel vehicle is the ability to be flex fueled by different sources of oil (veg, waste, petro-based)
danny_galaga:
for work vehicles i think it's a no-brainer- you need diesel. and 4wds that actually are used for 4wd-ing. what i'm annoyed about is regular passenger vehicles with diesel engines. i believe them to be grubbier. give me CO over particulants any day ;D
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