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DOT/Xenophobe to Tron Joystick conversion
SavannahLion:
--- Quote from: Encryptor on September 12, 2007, 02:37:02 pm ---Hm mm.... I don't know if there are variations of the Gorf stick. The one I have I bought from Ebay and it was advertised as a Gorf joystick. Maybe it's not an original Gorf stick. It's a little different than a DOT stick so I'm not sure. Since your Gorf stick doesn't have the restrictor on the bottom maybe the stick I have is actually variation of a DOT stick.
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I'm not a 100% certain about that bottom restrictor. On the Gorf stick, I was focusing more on repairing the circuit board and trying to figure out how it works than the specific components of the rest of the stick. I definitely don't remember seeing anything that looks like a red restrictor. I'll be more than happy to go home and look for it. It's possible they used a different colored plastic, but I think it's more likely an integral part of the trigger plate above the circuit board.
--- Quote ---I'd be very curious to know what the differences are between your stick and the one I have. After looking at a Gorf in KLOV and one for sale on Ebay it does appear that they have a straight shaft to the joystick. That makes them even more like a Tron in that aspect.
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Here is one of the photos of one of my Gorfs. That is a photo after I removed the circuit board for repairs, but I don't recall if it's before or after I removed the trigger plate there.
--- Quote ---I went to Harbor Freight and bought a bit set that contains like a 100 different security bits. It was only like $10. It had the one I needed to take apart the Tron handles.
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Sounds like a steal, I'll check it out. All the specialty shops I checked out are asking at least $5 just for one bit, and none of them have the bit I need.
--- Quote ---Take a better look at your Gorf stick if you can and take some pics if at all possible. Thanks for the heads up on the difference.
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No problem. If I don't get too wrapped up tonight on housework, I'll snap some better shots.
--- Quote ---I'm asking $7 plus shipping for the restrictor.
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Doh! You did say that in the PDF didn't you? :-[
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--- Quote from: SavannahLion on September 12, 2007, 02:55:52 pm ---
I'm not a 100% certain about that bottom restrictor. On the Gorf stick, I was focusing more on repairing the circuit board and trying to figure out how it works than the specific components of the rest of the stick. I definitely don't remember seeing anything that looks like a red restrictor. I'll be more than happy to go home and look for it. It's possible they used a different colored plastic, but I think it's more likely an integral part of the trigger plate above the circuit board.
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Thanks I appreciate it. It definitely looks very similar to the one I have. Mine didn't have any kind of a circuit board on it though. It basically looked like a DOT stick but was black(rusty) and had black handles.
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Anyone else that has a Gorf joystick that they can take some detailed hi-res pictures would be greatly appreciated. I may have to update my conversion doc but at least it will be right.
Thanks.
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NoOne=NBA=:
Gorf used the straight handle, and was an optical 8-way.
It didn't have the restrictor and leafswitches on the bottom.
It had two sliders, similar to the 49-way sticks.
When the stick was centered, there was a tab for each axis that was centered between two optical sensor assemblies for that direction.
When the stick was moved in a direction that tab would block one of the two sensors, to let the game know that you moved the stick in that direction.
My guess about your "Gorf" stick with leafswitches is that it was either a DOT or a Xenophobe stick.
Those are the two that are nearly identical.
The major difference between those two is that the Xeno stick has two thumb buttons.
There are some different versions of the trigger assemblies for the various sticks.
Gorf had the light up rear plate that had light bulbs on either side of the trigger assembly.
Some of the newer Xenophobe sticks used a mounting plate that was held in place by the thumb buttons, rather than screwed to the side of the stick like Tron.
I've even seen what I think are aftermarket conversions that use the newer Happ microswitch system in place of the original leafswitches.
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--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on September 12, 2007, 06:54:04 pm ---Gorf used the straight handle, and was an optical 8-way.
It didn't have the restrictor and leafswitches on the bottom.
It had two sliders, similar to the 49-way sticks.
When the stick was centered, there was a tab for each axis that was centered between two optical sensor assemblies for that direction.
When the stick was moved in a direction that tab would block one of the two sensors, to let the game know that you moved the stick in that direction.
My guess about your "Gorf" stick with leafswitches is that it was either a DOT or a Xenophobe stick.
Those are the two that are nearly identical.
The major difference between those two is that the Xeno stick has two thumb buttons.
There are some different versions of the trigger assemblies for the various sticks.
Gorf had the light up rear plate that had light bulbs on either side of the trigger assembly.
Some of the newer Xenophobe sticks used a mounting plate that was held in place by the thumb buttons, rather than screwed to the side of the stick like Tron.
I've even seen what I think are aftermarket conversions that use the newer Happ microswitch system in place of the original leafswitches.
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Thank you for the great information on the Gorf stick. From what you said it appears I must have gotten either the DOT or Xeno stick. The insert for the stick was missing when I bought it. Actually it sounds like I got a stick that was put together from pieces someone had. It is an 8-way stick that is bent like a DOT stick but doesn't have the button in the insert for Deflect that a DOT stick should have. It has the black handles like a Gorf or Xeno stick. I've even seen a few pics of Tron and DOT machines that have black handles.
I guess I'll have to redo my conversion doc and change it to DOT/Xenophobe.
Thanks again to everyone for the information they provided.
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