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| Zebidee:
it's the craziness of a modern world driven by economics of greed rather than need. Oh, I'm going to get all leftie here .... Personally, I have a great time sifting through the stuff other people think is useless .... :) Hey, that's where half my arcade parts come from .... |
| shardian:
So your saying that fuse in my pinball that was wrapped in foil was a bad thing? ;) |
| DaOld Man:
Im not sure what he's saying, but I would say yes, wrapping a fuse with aluminum foil or in any other way bypassing a fuse is a very bad idea. It's kinda like the way modern medicine treats the symptoms more than the cause of the symptoms in most cases. But with fuses it's probably a lot more serious. Fuses are there to protect the equipment from damage, and to protect personnel from fire. A fuse blowing indicates a problem that should be fixed, not covered up. But Im sure you all know that. :soapbox: |
| Green Giant:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on September 08, 2007, 07:56:52 pm --- --- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on September 08, 2007, 07:33:44 pm ---Ya know.... I've seen ALOT of companies doing this sort of thing more and more. I figure if you were going to throw it out anyways that you've deemed it uselees to you and your company for resale or any other purpose...... so why utterly destroy something when maybe somebody else could actually make use of it ?!?! I understand that whatever the merchandise is had cost the "company" money somewhere along the line, but now you have deemed it only worthy of throwing away. --- End quote --- I met a guy who worked at HP (if I recall) who was forced to destroy several thousand mid-high end business oriented printers. These printers were perfectly good. Parts were still available on the market. Support was still available from HP. The only problem these printers had was that they were obsolete and they were two generations behind. Even at a discount, businesses would not buy them. So HP ordered that they be destroyed and discarded. The question came up as to why HP wouldn't donate the printers to a school or a non-profit. Remove the serial plates and tell them there's no support. A group with 100 printers can easily use half and use the other half to scavenge parts off of. Being business printers, ink, toner, whatever can easily be available for at least next 20 years. The answer came back from the higher ups that destroying unsold equipment gets a better tax write off than donations do. ??? --- End quote --- Actually there is a little more to that HP story than your friend led you to believe. I worked at HP for 2 1/2 years on there server lines. Last year we were cleaning out a storage room so we could sell half of it as office space. So we started wrapping up pallet after pallet with tons of old servers. This stuff was still really fast and being sold on CDW. I figured we could have sent a nice rack full of equipment to every school in the school district, but instead it was all being sent to the dump to be scrapped for materials. The reason behind all this is that HP doesn't want the liability with these servers. If something goes wrong a few years from now, whoever is incharge won't realize they were freebies and expect service from us. Also, some of those were prototype servers that aren't supposed to be sold to the public. Chances are those printers were test printers that might have proprietary information on board. It sounds stupid but it is more than anything to protect themselves from having to support donated products. |
| Zebidee:
Yes, the economics of waste! Efficient economic allocation in a free market is not as easy as it sounds - bah humbug! I'm an economist, so I'm trying to resist writing an essay here ... :D |
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