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DaveMMR:

If I learned anything from this thread it's that people take eBay way too seriously.  And implementations of something similar to u_rebelscum's suggestions are the only way I would treat it on that same level.  Right now, I sell only cheap stuff I'm getting rid of anyway and when I bid, it's usually with a great deal of apathy.  (As I pointed out, I'll usually just bid an absolute maximum I'm willing to pay if I really want something and then go out drinking while waiting for the auction to end).

I don't understand screaming over eBay strategies.  What is that supposed to solve?  Aren't there more important things to fret over? Serious... at the end of the day who really cares? 

genesim:


--- Quote ---a) If a bid is made in last two minutes, extend auction two minutes past last bid (much like a traditional auction "going once, going twice, ah bid by person there, do I hear another, no,  going once, going twice," etc).  eBay said it doesn't want to do this before, and I doubt it will change in the future.
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Are you kidding me?   An auction would never frickin' end.

You have a set time...down to the very last second.   Sniping and shilling are not even close to each other.

Enforce penalties to the criminals.   Not the people that play by the rules...using software, their own hand...whatever.


--- Quote ---b) Go silent bid style; keep the hard cut off time, but don't post the bid amounts.  Most people don't like this type, even if it's basically the same as if everyone sniped at the last second.
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That completely makes no sense.   Who the hell would use the service if they don't even know what to pay!

I agree with the last two though.    But this idea that sniping is bad for ebay is just plain crazy.    Each to their own though.


DaveMMR:


--- Quote from: genesim on September 06, 2007, 08:45:56 pm ---Are you kidding me?   An auction would never frickin' end.
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Of course it would.  It ends when no one wants to spend more money than the highest bidder.  Continually bidding without regard for how much you're actually spending is just plain silly.


--- Quote ---b) Go silent bid style; keep the hard cut off time, but don't post the bid amounts.  Most people don't like this type, even if it's basically the same as if everyone sniped at the last second.

--- Quote ---That completely makes no sense.   Who the hell would use the service if they don't even know what to pay!
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Well the idea is to bid your best offer.  It's almost the same thing with Reserved Price Auctions (you don't know the *real* minimum bid).  It's beginning to seem that hardcore snipers aren't actually aware of the proxy bidding mechanics implemented on eBay since day one.


--- Quote ---But this idea that sniping is bad for ebay is just plain crazy.    Each to their own though.

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It's bad because it discourages people from selling.  They make no money off the bidders.  And the phrase you're looking for is "to each their own". 

genesim:


--- Quote ---Of course it would.  It ends when no one wants to spend more money than the highest bidder.
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Meanwhile...people have lives and you are saying that if I want to sell an item I have to sit around till the dust clears?   A set date of ending is a good thing, not bad.   There are so many problems with this idea.


--- Quote ---It's beginning to seem that hardcore snipers aren't actually aware of the proxy bidding mechanics implemented on eBay since day one.
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Where is your evidence on that?

A real auction doesn't have silent bidders, and it thankfully isn't the case with Ebay.   A reserved price auction is too limited.


--- Quote ---It's bad because it discourages people from selling.
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I don't know about your experience, but with my 300+ sales the most money typically is made off the last minute hands down.    The bidders that go back and forth don't generate the revenue, they are mostly penny pinchers which is why they waste the time.

By the way thank you for the attempted correction, but I actually wrote the exact phrase that I meant.  In American English the saying is more common.

I believe the original phrase was "to each his own".   ::)

DaveMMR:


--- Quote from: genesim on September 07, 2007, 04:04:05 am ---
--- Quote ---Of course it would.  It ends when no one wants to spend more money than the highest bidder.
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Meanwhile...people have lives and you are saying that if I want to sell an item I have to sit around till the dust clears?   A set date of ending is a good thing, not bad.   There are so many problems with this idea.


--- Quote ---It's beginning to seem that hardcore snipers aren't actually aware of the proxy bidding mechanics implemented on eBay since day one.
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Where is your evidence on that?

A real auction doesn't have silent bidders, and it thankfully isn't the case with Ebay.   A reserved price auction is too limited.


--- Quote ---It's bad because it discourages people from selling.
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I don't know about your experience, but with my 300+ sales the most money typically is made off the last minute hands down.    The bidders that go back and forth don't generate the revenue, they are mostly penny pinchers which is why they waste the time.

By the way thank you for the attempted correction, but I actually wrote the exact phrase that I meant.  In American English the saying is more common.

I believe the original phrase was "to each his own".   ::)

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Well I guess you're the "King of eBay" then!  Doesn't matter that you're WRONG on getting more money from snipers, especially since you argued that as a buyer, you snipe to SAVE money.  How is that good for you, as a seller who's getting LESS money for something, not to mention not getting any bids on the item until the very end?   I don't know what you mean by "bidders going back and forth", because, umm, don't snipers do that too (just in a shorter amount of time)? 

Seriously, it's silly of me to even reply.  I resist responding knowing it's a waste of time and enegy but the devil keeps finding my idle hands... 


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