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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2007, 08:30:41 pm »

That is a VERY nice cabinet!

Congrats on that mate.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2007, 09:31:34 pm »
Whoa, buzz-kill. :P Wade I can tell you that many people do see the slim cabinet size as an advantage, the goal here was to make it slim but still retro-arcade like. So you think the cabinet above looks 'badly proportioned'? That really bothers me, considering the time I spent designing it. As for being tippy, it isn't, as I said already.

I may be underestimating how many people see it as an advantage.  I'm just going by the people I know who are into games, and practically all of them have multiple games, so shaving 6" of depth from the back is just insignificant.  The average age on this forum may be a bit younger than me and there may be a lot more apartment dwellers, too, or may be planning or expecting to move.  Again, not among the gamers I know, but that could be different than most people on this forum.

Don't read too much into it - the only thing that makes the proportions look bad is the depth, IMO.  Otherwise, it looks very sharp.  I just expect upright video games to have more of a square footprint.  It's just what I'm used to, I guess.

Keep in mind that I have a dozen classic videos and pins, a 650 lb racing game and a 4-player 1500 lb racing game, all in my basement and moved down piece by piece (the only way to get the larger games down there).  So I'm probably on the wrong end of the scale when it comes to considering movability or practicality. ;)

Again, very nice job.  I'm obviously in the minority here, and I any time someone does something different there will be people who aren't fans of it.  Different strokes for different folks. :)

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2007, 10:18:50 pm »

I understand what you are saying Wade and I kind of agree with you.

However Knievels machine is designed to be different. Many husbands out there are going to love this design because the wives are going to accept it more than a full size machine and definately more than a 1500lb machine.  :laugh2:

CRTs are going to be phased out. No question about that, so moving to LCD is a good choice.
We had our own Arcade when I was 14-18 and I like the big bulky machines. I still build them big and bulky but I also have started using LCDs because importing CRTs from China is a slow and frustrating process.

I congratulate Knievel on this design. Modernizing these machines is great fun and thats why BYOAC is so successful I guess.

It is one Very, Very, Very nice machine.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2007, 11:29:27 pm »
Yea this cabinet would be for the person that wants one machine to play, not a arcade game collector.

Thanks for the kudos Spacies. Maybe we'll get you building some of these. :)

Cornchip I look forward to more glowing sticks, and seeing how that game room progresses. ;)

Javreyh I wasn't thinking 'the next Lusid cab' when I was building this so I didn't take many pics. Guess I'll have to build another and take some.

Here are the ones I did take, the one shot shows how I fastened it together with biscuits..

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2007, 11:41:32 pm »

Added a link to a bigger finished pic in the first post.
A couple of people were asking for one, figured that would be easiest..

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2007, 11:58:16 pm »
Yea this cabinet would be for the person that wants one machine to play, not a arcade game collector.

Thanks for the kudos Spacies. Maybe we'll get you building some of these. :)


You never know.

White with chrome would be HOT!  :dizzy:
I don't think I would build the CP like that, probably incorporate into the machine to make it a little more traditional but just a lot more shallow than the originals.
I'd probably do a Ms Pac with 6" chopped off the back.

Again, credit were its due mate.  :cheers:

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2007, 12:57:32 am »
Dang, another homerun for Kneivel.  Your work is making me seriously consider an LCD when I make my next cab.  I love my existing cab, but it'ts a freakin monster.   These slim cabs would be much better suited for my house.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2007, 11:29:26 am »
Looking at this slimline cabinet has re-awakened by desire to build one myself, i reckon it might get past the wife too, count me in for some plans should they get released to the public.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2007, 11:47:23 am »

I will be getting to some drawings soon.

Have to get the kiddies into their after-summer groove so I can get a little free time.

And I've got another project I'm just finishing..stay tuned  ;)

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2007, 11:52:15 am »
Unbelievable as always, Knievel. I wish I had your skills at making everything come together so cleanly (probably not a real word, but it fits).  :cheers:
I've got a fever...

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2007, 06:38:52 pm »

Look forward to the next announcement Knievel.

BTW, someone pointed me in your direction re: a wall hanging cab. You done anything like that? I'm lookiing to steal an idea from someone. I drew up a concept yesterday and will give that a crack but if you have done something I would like to know. PM or reply here.  :cheers:

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2007, 10:49:03 pm »

Sorry, no. I did do a couple but I think I must've lost the pics in a recent HD crash.  :'(

Not much to look at really. An LCD monitor hanging on the wall with my standard CP mounted on the wall with hidden fastners.


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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2007, 09:35:16 am »
Looks awesome my friend.  Also, thanks again for hooking me up with my CP.  Keep 'em coming.   :notworthy:

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2007, 12:50:45 pm »

Thanks. Glad it all worked out. :)

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2007, 02:27:41 pm »
this makes me want to design a cab as short as i possibly could while keeping the classic/retro stuff you can see in my project :)

i mean THIN as hell.. use a laptop for the pc parts, large 21 or 24 inch lcd screen, coin door, etc.. 8 inch deep CP like what i already made, plus perhaps another 8 inches for screen angle, mdf panels, fans, etc..wooow ...

it would look JUST like a regular cab if you look straight front :)

but only about ONE FOOT deep (!)

.... mmmhh ;)

there is no way i'd have an excuse to build it now that my full size (34 inch deep!) cab is 90 % done ... unless it was to sell it right away .. dunno if there would be takers ;)

i'll play in sketchup at least

thanks for the inspiration knievel, your projects rock! keep up the good work.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2007, 02:48:48 pm »
ARTIFACT - watch out for tipping if you build something that thin!  Knievel's looks perfectly proportioned but I wouldn't go much thinner unless you bolt it to the wall...

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2007, 03:40:04 pm »
im crazy but not that much! :)

of couse it would be wll-hung ala earthquake brackets everyone installs in la

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2007, 04:18:47 am »
ARTIFACT - watch out for tipping if you build something that thin!  Knievel's looks perfectly proportioned but I wouldn't go much thinner unless you bolt it to the wall...
A 75 pound bag of cement wrapped in a garbage bag, placed in the bottom can compensate.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2007, 12:05:13 pm »
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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2007, 06:45:27 pm »
i think he laminates all of his cabs if i remember correctly

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2007, 06:14:56 pm »

Well I normally use black semi-gloss latex paint, applied with a 4" white foam roller(rounded on both ends).

And I have laminated a few cabinets too.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2007, 12:10:52 am »
Ah, OK
For some reason I thought you laminated most of them.
Great job again.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2007, 11:37:36 pm »
Absolutely gorgeous cabinet!  I am in the process of building my own cabinet and have limited space, so your designs have been an inspiration.  I have 2 questions about the monitor bezel, 1.) Do you use tempered glass, or plexiglass? 2.) How are you mounting the bezel in the cabinet, does it just sit snugly in the cabinet frame, or are you using trim to hold it in?

Thank you for all the pictures and details, its been a great help!!

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2007, 03:18:17 am »
I'd like to add a question to drgilby's, how do you reach the monitor's controls (to turn it on etc)?

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2007, 11:00:30 am »
I'd like to add a question to drgilby's, how do you reach the monitor's controls (to turn it on etc)?

Most people set their cabs up so the monitor and everything else (marquee light, speakers) turns on once the computer power button is pressed. 

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2007, 02:40:17 pm »

The monitor glass is regular glass, I wouldn't suggest using plexi or lexan because you could get scratches.

Not sure of your other question. My 'bezel' is a sheet of black posterboard that is sandwiched between the monitor and the monitor glass.

The monitor is always plugged in. When the computer comes on it signals the LCD and fires the screen up.

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« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2007, 03:10:00 pm »
Not sure of your other question. My 'bezel' is a sheet of black posterboard that is sandwiched between the monitor and the monitor glass.

Sorry about that, I was including the glass as part of the bezel.  As you can probably tell, I'm a newbie :).  I was wondering how you mounted the glass in the cabinet.  I will be playing some Golden Tee, so I'm a little worried about how the glass will stay put.  My first thought was to put wood trim tacked in on the left and right side of the glass to hold it in place.  The monitor would be mounted in the same way as you have in your photos.

Thanks again!

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #67 on: September 27, 2007, 07:05:51 pm »

The glass slides up behind the speaker panel and then the bottom drops into a slot routed in the top of the admin panel. I use 1/4" thick glass so it's heavy and won't go anywhere.  :)

Here's a pic, different machine but the same idea..




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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2007, 08:57:16 pm »
 I should have used glass when I did my cabinet. It's not so much the scratches...but the dust that collects on the monitor side due to the static build up. Not pretty. I did a good thing since I mounted my plexi the same way as shown in Knievel's Evolution. I'm guessing that glass really isn't all that expensive (as I thought originally). What does it cost you usually?

 Cornchip.

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« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2007, 10:46:05 pm »

About $40 including the edge polishing.

Never thought about static being a problem. :P

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2007, 11:37:53 am »

The glass slides up behind the speaker panel and then the bottom drops into a slot routed in the top of the admin panel. I use 1/4" thick glass so it's heavy and won't go anywhere.  :)

With nothing "holding" the glass, do you get any rattle?  I used this design on my driving cab, but with all the vibration built in (subwoofers, base shaker, and rumblers), it buzzed worse than a hive of  bees.  I ended up putting in felt at the top and a pressure plate at the bottom. 

Regarding concerns of the thin cabs not looking right... To some, these cabs are nostalgic recreations; to others they are art;  to others they are furnature; to others they are just the structure that hold their gaming components together.  To each his own. 

Nice job on this one, can't wait to read about your next.

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2007, 11:48:15 am »
Here's a pic, different machine but the same idea..



I can never see too many pics of your builds...

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2007, 01:36:35 pm »
That is one awesome cabinet!  Very impressive.  Do you do your own control panel art?  If so, what are using to design it?


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« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2007, 06:48:06 pm »

Thanks, the CPO was done in Photoshop.

I did everything but the background, that one is from the Arcade Art Library.

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« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2007, 07:11:55 pm »
With nothing "holding" the glass, do you get any rattle?  I used this design on my driving cab, but with all the vibration built in (subwoofers, base shaker, and rumblers), it buzzed worse than a hive of  bees.  I ended up putting in felt at the top and a pressure plate at the bottom. 

Regarding concerns of the thin cabs not looking right... To some, these cabs are nostalgic recreations; to others they are art;  to others they are furnature; to others they are just the structure that hold their gaming components together.  To each his own. 

Nice job on this one, can't wait to read about your next.

Never had any rattling but then again I'm not running all that stuff.
I route the bottom slot so that when the posterboard bezel and glass are pushed in they are tight.

I'll be posting a crazy project soon.. ;)

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« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2007, 08:22:20 pm »
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I'll be posting a crazy project soon.. ;)


Hurry up!

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2007, 10:02:15 pm »
I'll be posting a crazy project soon.. ;)

Let the speculation begin.  Dedicated vpinball machine?

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Re: Knievel's Evolution
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2007, 10:10:19 am »
The monitor is always plugged in. When the computer comes on it signals the LCD and fires the screen up.
I am kinda embarrassed now. I've been building PCs for more than a decade now, have owned multiple LCDs, and was just told by my wife that LCD monitors "remember" their on/off state, even when the power is completely cut... I never knew this.

Ah well, another problem solved :)

Curious to know what your new project will be!

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« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2007, 10:52:04 am »

Yea that's one more great thing about LCD monitors.

Enjoying the buzz in this thread about my next project..might have to post a teaser announcement. :)

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« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2007, 01:53:39 pm »
That cab is a work of art, pure genius. Well Donr!!!  ;D

  
 

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