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Knievel:
Whoa, buzz-kill. :P Wade I can tell you that many people do see the slim cabinet size as an advantage, the goal here was to make it slim but still retro-arcade like. So you think the cabinet above looks 'badly proportioned'? That really bothers me, considering the time I spent designing it. As for being tippy, it isn't, as I said already.
Anyways, thanks again to everyone.
Artifact I have to say I tried the real arcade monitor route in the beginning and wasn't impressed. I much prefer the sharpness and detail of a PC monitor, I guess I'm just weird? Anyway I have used 21" PC monitors in all my machines and now I'm using the 20" LCD monitors. As for recreating scan-lines I'm not into it but yea, why can't they do that? Seems like it should be an easy thing.
When you are finished your cabinet, coming along nicely by the way ;), I wonder if you would be interested in doing some Sketchup drawings of the Evolution for me?
You seem to have mastered the program and even with your tutorials I'm having a slow time of it.
jtbullet:
knieval, bravo, the control panel is awesome. I have not seen your cab before, but it is sweet. You really should try a complete wall mount, and get it even thinner. I think the design is great. I love MAME, but I believe the new designs are what I like best. Make my games old, but make my design new please! My mame shuei cabinet will surely draw a ton of rock throwers if wade has that much criticism for your beautiful work. To each his own as they say! Great work!
theCoder:
--- Quote from: Knievel on August 27, 2007, 10:29:20 am ---
Thanks. Yea the LCD's I have been using are 20" 4:3 Acers.
They are $230 Canadian so I'm guessing they'd be around $200 US. A lot of screen for the money.
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I just picked up a new 19" Viewsonic for $145 US delivered off EBay. Just think what they will cost next year.
Strokemouth:
--- Quote from: Wade on August 27, 2007, 09:34:20 pm ---Kneivel,
Nice job! As always, a very sharp design and the build quality looks superb!
Let me offer some constructive criticism. Or more accurately, just a differing view on the LCD and slim cabinet. I'm not a fan of either.
1) Slim cabinets: To me, they just appear badly proportioned. Is 6" of available depth really keeping people from building or owning arcade cabinets? I can't imagine that affecting many people. Most of us have plenty of room for several games. I'm sure the weight is a little less, but from the cabinet design alone, the difference would be pretty minimal. Using 5/8" ply versus MDF in 5/8 or 3/4 is probably a more significant weight difference. I don't see the slim cabinet as much of advantage, if any at all. Even with an LCD monitor and as many parts in the bottom as possible, I still see the design as a tipping liability, versus traditional cabinets (most of which have no tipping tendency).
2) LCD displays: Weight savings, sure. Even with the price of LCD's falling though, it's hard to get a display size comparable to many CRT's (25-29" tubes). Larger display size makes the viewing angle better for multiple players (further distance from monitor+larger display=smaller angle, preferable with any display type). Size is only one consideration, and in a more classic styled cabinet (like a 19" vert) the difference in size is a non-issue. I could go into the details of why I don't like their appearance, but it's sufficient to say that LCD's don't have an arcade-authentic look.
Wade
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I see where you're coming from, but disagree on some parts:
1. Yes, 6" can make a huge difference. For some, being able to move the cabinet is a factor. For example, on my first cab (which is, of course, still in preliminary stages), I'll initially be putting it in my office upstairs. When a kid comes along, I'll be giving up my office as the nursery and relocating the cab to my theater in the basement. Not only is weight a factor (which also goes towards the LCD preference), but being able to maneuver the cab through 2 separate landings on the stairs is key as well. Half of me wants to create something that is reminiscent of classic cabs, but the other half wants to create something that is both unique and customized to my own needs.
2. There is definitely some worth in going with an authentic monitor, or even a large CRT TV, to get a more authentic feel, but that also limits you in what you can do with the cab. If you want to tie in other components, such as say an Xbox 360 or something, you can't take full advantage of it as you are limited by the display. Same goes for adding things like a jukebox or something. Not to mention the previous point of size/maneuverability. However, I totally agree about the size issue. Trying to find a 20+" 4:3 LCD is damn near impossible.
Knievel, I love this design and can't wait to see the dimensions. Good thing I haven't cut that MDF yet!
:cheers:
ARTIFACT:
--- Quote from: Knievel on August 27, 2007, 11:12:56 pm ---Artifact I have to say I tried the real arcade monitor route in the beginning and wasn't impressed. I much prefer the sharpness and detail of a PC monitor, I guess I'm just weird?
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When you are finished your cabinet, coming along nicely by the way ;), I wonder if you would be interested in doing some Sketchup drawings of the Evolution for me?
You seem to have mastered the program and even with your tutorials I'm having a slow time of it.
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You're not weird :) ... I just love to see the dots the way it looked when I was a kid (memories). I can't stand the pc monitors for that (although some of it can be "simulated")
Regarding sketchup drawing of your Evolution cab: I have to warn you that I am going to be suuuper busy soon, family reasons, BUT I always enjoy doing these things so I can try to squeeze some of it here and there - let's chat over PM. I just can't promise, but know I'd love to if I have the time.
(check the update on my project ;) .............)
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