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ahofle:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 31, 2007, 03:42:55 pm ---You act like MS is run by some evil supervillain who deliberately unleashed a defective product on the world and is now sitting back in his lair cackling like a madman.
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HAHAHAHHAHA!
Oh...wait...I thought you were being serious and talking about Bill Gates and MS Windows. ;D
tommy:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 31, 2007, 04:35:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: tommy on August 31, 2007, 04:04:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 31, 2007, 03:42:55 pm ---
Tommy, you're weird. You act like MS is run by some evil supervillain who deliberately unleashed a defective product on the world and is now sitting back in his lair cackling like a madman.
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That's not how i act, and if you read anything from me about my feelings about MS you would know that is not what i think at all. I know they don't want this to be happening, that''s just a silly thing to say, and not the point at all.
I just feel for a such a big company to put out a console with such major problems they obviously did not do their jog somewhere along the lines and i simply will not buy that console and will always try to warn people before they support a company who did not test their console enough to find a simple problem like this. MS rushed out their console to be the first one out and did not put in the time needed to find what problems could arise from prolonged use of their console. period. This is not acceptable.
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No console manufacturer finishes their product and then shelves it for a full year to test long term viability, including Sony and Nintendo. All you have to do is read developer interviews. First gen software is started on PC's and then initial development kits are finally delivered that bare little resemblance to the final product, and developers tend to get final kits just a couple months before the console ships. In fact, neither Nintendo or Sony have had their systems on the market long enough to tell if a similar fate awaits them. It probably doesn't. MS just had some bad luck. But give a guy a break. It would be one thing if the original Xbox had similar quality issues, but that wasn't the case. Matter of fact, it was the PS2 in the last generation that had a chronic problem with the lasers in their disc drives becoming misaligned and refusing to read media. And, frankly, I don't believe that Sony had the gumption to step up and fix the problem no matter what, regardless of warranty status.
I'm no MS fanboy. I own a Wii, and hope to get a PS3 this gen. I'm planning to sit MS out this time around (assuming that the PS3 drops in price and becomes a serious competitor in the next few years). But you can't seriously take this ring-of-death thing as far as you're taking it. It's just an unfortunate thing, and MS has been a total standup company about it. They've owned up to their mistake and are being totally honorable about fixing it.
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I bet you next time they will test it properly and not want to put their customers through hell and waste their own time and money getting it right after the fact.
shmokes:
Yes, I imagine they will not want to put their customers through that next time. Though, I imagine, they didn't want to put their customers through it this time. And I imagine they will probably test it extensively and try their hardest to keep this from happening again. Wait . . . where exactly are you going with this?
tommy:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 31, 2007, 07:42:04 pm --- Wait . . . where exactly are you going with this?
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Oh, i don't know, just back to my original argument that they should have made sure it was tested the first time so this sort of thing would not happen.
I will give them some credit for standing by their console but in the same sentence, if they did not stand by it they would be finished as far as console buyers go.
shmokes:
Sony didn't stand by the PS2. They just let people go out and buy a replacement. And people did. I know quite a few people who bought two PS2s over the last five or six years because their first one broke out of warranty.
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