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tommy:
--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on August 29, 2007, 09:22:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dervacumen on August 29, 2007, 09:10:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: tommy on August 29, 2007, 07:09:29 pm ---I only have an agp slot, but after looking at your link i may be able to find a decent enough card at that price for my rig.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think any PCIe cards have Shader Model 3 but you better check that. This game does require SM3. I was in the same boat as you last year. I found that even though most of my computer would be fine for playing current PC games I needed to finally upgrade to a board with PCIe slots so I could use a next-gen graphics card. Even if I was willing to accept less performance. It also allowed me to make a massive jump in CPU power.
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Huh? I'm guessing you meant you don't think any AGP cards have SM3, but there are plenty of them. SM3 is on the cards GeForce 6600, Radeon x1300 or better, and it looks like available cards for AGP go up to GeForce 7950GT and Radeon X1950XT. Maybe your thinking of Shader Model 4.0 and DirectX 10, because there are no AGP cards for those.
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No, i meant that the link provided only had PCIe cards and i could only use an agp card. I can find what i need though.
shmokes:
My poor computer. It was so extravagant when I got it, the ATI X800 was the fastest card around. Look what it has been reduced to. LOOK!
So, yeah, I knew that my computer was getting to be a little bit older, but for the first time I have tried to play a game (demo) on it that it simply could not handle. Too bad. Looks like my PC gaming days are officially over, as I highly doubt that I will be replacing or even upgrading this machine until I'm finished with school three years from now.
Tommy, you're weird. You act like MS is run by some evil supervillain who deliberately unleashed a defective product on the world and is now sitting back in his lair cackling like a madman. The console simply has a design flaw, and it's costing the company millions of dollars. They're no happier about it than anyone else. But they seem to have taken every appropriate measure, and acted in good faith. They're taking care of the systems that are already out there and they've redesigned the system altogether to make sure future purchasers don't have the same problem. Why are you so agro about MS. They made a mistake, but beyond that they do have the system with by far the most excellent games on it. That ought to count for something with someone who presumably enjoys excellent games.
tommy:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 31, 2007, 03:42:55 pm ---
Tommy, you're weird. You act like MS is run by some evil supervillain who deliberately unleashed a defective product on the world and is now sitting back in his lair cackling like a madman.
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That's not how i act, and if you read anything from me about my feelings about MS you would know that is not what i think at all. I know they don't want this to be happening, that''s just a silly thing to say, and not the point at all.
I just feel for a such a big company to put out a console with such major problems they obviously did not do their jog somewhere along the lines and i simply will not buy that console and will always try to warn people before they support a company who did not test their console enough to find a simple problem like this. MS rushed out their console to be the first one out and did not put in the time needed to find what problems could arise from prolonged use of their console. period. This is not acceptable.
AtomSmasher:
--- Quote from: tommy on August 30, 2007, 12:46:37 pm ---
--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on August 29, 2007, 09:22:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dervacumen on August 29, 2007, 09:10:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: tommy on August 29, 2007, 07:09:29 pm ---I only have an agp slot, but after looking at your link i may be able to find a decent enough card at that price for my rig.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think any PCIe cards have Shader Model 3 but you better check that. This game does require SM3. I was in the same boat as you last year. I found that even though most of my computer would be fine for playing current PC games I needed to finally upgrade to a board with PCIe slots so I could use a next-gen graphics card. Even if I was willing to accept less performance. It also allowed me to make a massive jump in CPU power.
--- End quote ---
Huh? I'm guessing you meant you don't think any AGP cards have SM3, but there are plenty of them. SM3 is on the cards GeForce 6600, Radeon x1300 or better, and it looks like available cards for AGP go up to GeForce 7950GT and Radeon X1950XT. Maybe your thinking of Shader Model 4.0 and DirectX 10, because there are no AGP cards for those.
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No, i meant that the link provided only had PCIe cards and i could only use an agp card. I can find what i need though.
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I understood what you meant, I was just responding to Dervacumen.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: tommy on August 31, 2007, 04:04:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 31, 2007, 03:42:55 pm ---
Tommy, you're weird. You act like MS is run by some evil supervillain who deliberately unleashed a defective product on the world and is now sitting back in his lair cackling like a madman.
--- End quote ---
That's not how i act, and if you read anything from me about my feelings about MS you would know that is not what i think at all. I know they don't want this to be happening, that''s just a silly thing to say, and not the point at all.
I just feel for a such a big company to put out a console with such major problems they obviously did not do their jog somewhere along the lines and i simply will not buy that console and will always try to warn people before they support a company who did not test their console enough to find a simple problem like this. MS rushed out their console to be the first one out and did not put in the time needed to find what problems could arise from prolonged use of their console. period. This is not acceptable.
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No console manufacturer finishes their product and then shelves it for a full year to test long term viability, including Sony and Nintendo. All you have to do is read developer interviews. First gen software is started on PC's and then initial development kits are finally delivered that bare little resemblance to the final product, and developers tend to get final kits just a couple months before the console ships. In fact, neither Nintendo or Sony have had their systems on the market long enough to tell if a similar fate awaits them. It probably doesn't. MS just had some bad luck. But give a guy a break. It would be one thing if the original Xbox had similar quality issues, but that wasn't the case. Matter of fact, it was the PS2 in the last generation that had a chronic problem with the lasers in their disc drives becoming misaligned and refusing to read media. And, frankly, I don't believe that Sony had the gumption to step up and fix the problem no matter what, regardless of warranty status.
I'm no MS fanboy. I own a Wii, and hope to get a PS3 this gen. I'm planning to sit MS out this time around (assuming that the PS3 drops in price and becomes a serious competitor in the next few years). But you can't seriously take this ring-of-death thing as far as you're taking it. It's just an unfortunate thing, and MS has been a total standup company about it. They've owned up to their mistake and are being totally honorable about fixing it.
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