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Best Figher ever made???
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: genesim on August 18, 2007, 03:10:02 pm ---You guys are cracking me up.
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OK, I've avoided it until now, but I'm going to say it directly ... you really are too offensive for your own good ... you don't know how to debate, you are belligerent and you can't support your facts (even when some of them actually ARE facts).
Arguing points is one thing, but you keep telling people that they're stupid and don't understand, without any reasonable attempt to provide proof for your facts *and* you completely fail to address those who point your obnoxiousness out.
The last time you pulled this crap, you got your butt handed to you by RandyT and others in some sad attempt to justify your choice of an LCD over an arcade monitor (HINT: If you want an LCD, justify it by saying that you prefer an LCD instead of running your mouth, sounding like a clown and offending your superiors).
You even managed to make tranqhair look good in that thread ... and THAT takes talent.
Really, who is foolish enough to suggest that ahofle doesn't understand how an ArcadeVGA works and that RandyT doesn't have a defense (I may not always agree with RandyT, but I know that he usually has a point and that flailing away at him like a clueless monkey just makes you look more foolish).
And this time it is all because you prefer one lame fighter over another ... it's not like you're choosing between GOOD games, like, say Galaga and Robotron ...
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EDIT: Get off my lawn !! Thanks Ray!
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Streets Of Rage rocks!
RayB:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on August 18, 2007, 05:02:23 pm ---And this time it is all because you prefer one lame fighter over another ... it's not like you're choosing between GOOD games, like, say Galaga and Robotron ...
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Hey, don't break the rules. Every statement like that must be followed by "Get off my lawn!" ;)
jcoleman:
--- Quote ---MK sold with an estimated 15 million home cosole games a record not likely to ever be beaten when you speak of paying customers. I remember when it went down, and I know that alot of games went into peoples homes. It was hysteria. At last I remember the coinops were in the neighborhood of 1000 ALONE. This isn't included the spinoffs. SFII franchise is around 5000 so you guys figure it out.
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Care to provide your source for these numbers? I'd actually be interested in seeing it, b/c I'd really like to know how many of each classic cabinet was made. That'd be a nice stat for MAME. Anyway, I'm not impressed.
--- Quote ---But hey, it is a free country and fanboys will no doubt disagree no matter the evidenc.
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You are clearly an expert in this subject.
--- Quote ---SFII was inventive and MK took it even further with addition of the block button and the non retreating way it was played. MK was not derivative of SFII other then it was a fighting game of which both were derivative of others.
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Please name the player vs. player fighting games that came before Street Fighter 2, other than Karate Champ and that POS Pit Fighter.
--- Quote ---I never called you any of the above. I try not to call direct names, I only imply.
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Yeah, that's a lot classier.
--- Quote ---So according to your info MK1 never broke a million??!! :laugh2: Did you ever hear of Mortal Monday???
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Yeah, I was there picking up my copy, while you were likely having your diaper changed. If there's no reference, it doesn't stay on Wikipedia for long. If you have numbers and references with which to back your sales argument, please provide, otherwise don't bother arguing that point anymore.
--- Quote ---You will find with a little google that those numbers have been staggering.
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Guess I'll have to do that myself since you can't be bothered with it...
--- Quote ---http://www.ladydragon.com/z/270204.html
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The facts are that sales numbers for Video Games are tracked even less and estimates are all we have. SFII was popular but not more popular then MK. Rentals alone should show you this. SFII was always easy to find. MK is in pawn shops alot, no doubt. Because so many damn games were sold. A little research will give you obvious answers.
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So basically you're arguing about numbers and saying that the numbers are probably not even that accurate...then you refer to some website in the middle of nowhere with no reference...then you give anoecdotal evidence. You're really not doing a very good job arguing your side here. I really hope you are not on your high school forensics team. (this is what's known as baiting, BTW ;) )
--- Quote ---But don't pretend that a small group of people is the opinion of millions.
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No one did that. You are the one who keeps equating units sold to quality. Britney Spears sold over 76 million albums but that does not mean she is a good artist, now does it?
--- Quote ---MK has taken a beating as of late because of the reputation that was lost through poor ports.
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No, the beating you speak of is more like that of a dead horse...kind of like this thread...
Now GTFOML.
genesim:
Please point out how "Randy T" beat my butt.
If you actually take the time to read what I wrote as opposed to being a groupie you will find that commons sense will tell you that I was correct from the beginning and even MAME devs themselves understood exactly what I spoke of.
To rehash it here is redundant, but I will say it shortly...you have no frickin' idea what you are talking about. Randy T on the other hand understood exactly what I spoke of, but refused to speak of the most common sense aspect of the whole arguement.
Getting the pixels represented correctly is the ground floor of presenting emulation accurately. Effects can be laid down later. Randy T was arguing page after page about how the Programmers wanted it this way or that way....yet he never could comment on the simple fact that the card approximated the pixel output using a much more accurate means on an LCD screen.
Now care to comment on this fact or are either of you going to resort to more childish name calling.
Randy T did....that and the fact that he got his feewings hurt becaue I astutely pointed out that his hate came from bashing the Arcade VGA which wasn't made by him.
Care to look at some history...check out some of his and Christains exchanges...not to mention with many others on this board.
I apologized to him actually because I wasn't done with the debate and he cried off like a little girl. Now who "beat the butt" in this regard? Last I saw, the closer I got to the truth the more he skated. If you undertood the arguement, perhaps you would agree with me...but of course that would mean that you would have to stop being a groupie and actually think for yourself.
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Jcoleman,
I don't know how to get this through to you....but coming up with exact numbers would be rounding at best. The Midway official website(or a link to the article) stated that MK the original arcade sold around 15 million. I actually remember these figures from the old Game Pro magazines that I had at the time. But you don't believe it, that doesn't matter. I don't care if you believe it.
As for the rest of your personal attacks. Only a coward would act like that. I have never once disrespected you or anyone else for that matter, so you really can end this whole thing. I could care less what you think or what you stand for.
--- Quote ---No one did that. You are the one who keeps equating units sold to quality. Britney Spears sold over 76 million albums but that does not mean she is a good artist, now does it?
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No one did that??? How red are those glasses anyway? If you look at what was written...which means the opinion of a few on here doesn't equate to the opinion of millions...then you do understand that yes popularity is usually an indication of greatness. Not always...but alot of the time.
As for Britney...just what have you done lately? :laugh2: So many followers on here, do you actually have opinions of your own? Just how many times am I going to hear the Britney Spears equation. Yet it never did have merit from the word go.
If you don't have sense enough to debate with class, then maybe it is time you go.