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Best Figher ever made???
deanrichmonde:
Browsing around here, I wandered into the middle of the whole MK vs SF argument. I have heard people argue other games, but rarely compare them to SF. While I do not claim to be a techno savvy stud, nor a even a computer literate guy whatsoever, I did spend all my free time in the arcade like many young boys. So I will not try and fake it, and claim that I know a darn thing about "easter eggs" or "loop holes" or new editions with glitches and resolution.
I joined this web community just today, for a number of reasons, but the first thing I wanted to do was to call out a phony. Whoever Genesim is, and whatever he claims to know about anything, I don't buy it. He's pushing too hard. Like a used car salesman who just won't shut up about something stupid. Several people on this link voiced their opinion, and it all sounded sincere and genuine. I had no problem reading peoples preferences towards games I disliked, or ho-hummed about. But every...single...time I read a llloooonnnngggg quote from Genesim, I got irritated. And I don't even know the guy! It's not that I mind the long emails, or the preference of mk over sf. But he was soooo wrong, and he tried to sound soooo smart with things he claimed to be facts, but then never bothered to quote his sources.
He kept pushing for us to believe that he was only stating his opinion, but it felt like he was trying to force me to believe it. And when people started comparing the two games to chess and checkers, brilliant similarity. And therein lies the problem. It is a choice, a preference, an opinion, to enjoy mortal kombat over street fighter (any version, they all rock) but it is a fact that street fighter requires more skill... waaaayyyy more skill. That is not my personal opinion. Several people have added their proof; tournaments world wide constantly for sf but none for mk was my favorite point. (just like they don't have checkers tournaments... well, maybe in retirement homes they do...)
What I was writing for tonight, was to state my preference. I prefer SSF2. It is not my favorite game of all time, that is reserved for another. But the skill requirement is much higher for any/all sf games when compared to mk. Forget about graphics, and finishings, and glitches, and all the other nonsense. The skill is in sf.
And genesim, you sound educated, (not intelligent, just educated) so educate yourself on why you're so stubborn. :lame:
RayB:
And The Best First Post award goes to........
;D
genesim:
Yeah it really takes skill to roach a Guille lover when you have the Ken/Akuma/Ryu/Sagat(and even Dan) combination.
The funny thing is that noone tackled my points, and instead got into a bunch of namecalling to "prove" their side.
YET, I said all along that my OPINION was just that. My points weren't exactly for a rocket scientist. Can the same be said for my opposition? Those people believe that because they think SFII is superior then it must be gospel.
Street Fighter II (the original) was slow. Only several...several revisions later did they even attempt to get it right.
Yet with the fireball added...Chun Li getting one slow..then fast...or Zangief walking through fireballs..etc. didn't change the fact that many characters were unbalanced and 2 people at similar skills would absolutely smash the other when picking said inferior character.
If my posts are too long for you to read, then tackle anything I have said. Start there. Instead of name calling, how about actually taking apart some of my points?
Why is it that I am sounding "so smart" when I am merely stating facts that even a monkey could understand. Go back to page one. Go back to where it all began and see who had the rude behavior.
I stated a game I liked, and it turned into a MK trashing fest. Not only are most of the statements completely foolish, but they are also unwarranted. It is like if someone said they liked *fill in blank* and I proceeded to take apart everything that the poster liked about the game.
I defend my taste, and I am the bad guy. Yet others actually downright start name calling and starting out by calling me CRAZY personally or stating that I don't know what I am talking about in regards to fighting games.
I find this offensive because I am a veteran at video games...and lastly fighting games. I know SFII quite well, and would consider myself a diehard, yet I also know its faults and calling it "deep" is just a coverup for not knowing the nuances of why it got its ass kicked in sales to begin with.
I love the game, but some of the blind devotion to the game just cracks me up. The fabled SubZero glitch(which again was eliminated by revision 5) is oh too much, yet the whole unbalance of several SFII characters are ok?
Are we seeing a trend here. Just because it is a witch hunt doesn't make it correct. Most people are followers, and you know from the news that the mob mentality is a sickness that plagues society.
--- Quote ---While I do not claim to be a techno savvy stud, nor a even a computer literate guy whatsoever, I did spend all my free time in the arcade like many young boys. So I will not try and fake it, and claim that I know a darn thing about "easter eggs" or "loop holes" or new editions with glitches and resolution.
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And that is your problem. But I personally have played that many hours and much more. I practically dedicate my life to them. I have friends fly out to check out my arcade and we literally spend days playing fighting games.
--- Quote ---Several people have added their proof; tournaments world wide constantly for sf but none for mk was my favorite point. (just like they don't have checkers tournaments... well, maybe in retirement homes they do...)
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Where do you or them get this crap? Besides the number one tournament was in the game itself. :laugh2: Seriously, there have been MK tournaments and they no doubt still exist, but most of it is just a PR stunt. Most of the best players out there don't even participate. It is not a matter of real skill, because the competition is mostly playing for their own amusement. That has never held water for me...then or now.
Now the online thing, that is another story. A much bigger pool. Ultimate MK3 recently was found to be the largest XBOX 360 download for online play. There are some really great players out there, and instead of just looking into a small community, you might want to venture out in the world a bit. The emperors clothes may not be what they seem.
CheffoJeffo:
Is anybody else reminded of a certain someone and his favourite joysticks ?
;D
genesim:
Oh no its the STALKER....PART II... ch ch ch ch ha ha ha.
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Alright, admin, I am done. I hate to get this post deleted or get kicked off of here.
I would rather leave all this behind. Think what you want guys, but I tried to have a civlized discussion, but apparently if you aren't part of SFII fan club then there is no chance for survival.
Hopefully all this will leave this thread and lets get on to better things.
We all have our likes and dislikes and it actually pains me to put down a good game. In my own view it is like splitting hairs. Depending on the kick I am on KOF, SFII, MK, Last Blade, Killer Instinct, the VS series...and even in the rarest times Street Fighter The Movie. :laugh2:
Eternal Champions I miss, but I am too lazy to seek out a good emulator or rig a sega genesis....yet.