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slsimon:


--- Quote from: arzoo on August 09, 2007, 11:32:08 am ---slsimon,
If I understand correctly, you want the player buttons groups to cycle through different colors when the FE is active (not during game play). This could be achieved with an animation file. With MaLa and the LEDBlinky or LEDWiz plugin, you can play a LED animation when the screen saver is active. I'm sure this is also true for Atomic and GameEx. I think this meets your first requirement. The only problem is we don't currently have any decent animation editors (actually, I think Atomic or GameEx has its own proprietary editor, but I'm not sure which it is). Anyway, that will be resolved shortly as both RandyT and I are actively working on animation editors.

As for your second request - lighting the buttons during game play, the LEDBlinky allows you to define both active and non-active colors. This can be the same for all games or you can define the colors by emulator or on a game-by-game basis. The other LED apps may be able to do the same. You really have a lot of choices! Bottom line, I think the vision you have for your cab is doable. ;D


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Thanks arzoo for you response.  Yes, to start with, I think I am going to attempt to cycle the block of buttons per player through a random amount of colors while at the same time, no player can have the same color of buttons.  I would like to get this setup while the FE is active (during game play) and during inactive play.  I may want to add the option for specific color per game buttons used at a later time once I determine if this is needed or not.  I really have not made a decision on this one yet... 

I have been browsing the Mala site today and noticed the two plugins you mentioned, the ledblinky 2.5 and the ledwiz plugin.  This leaves me to ask another question.  Does one plugin offer extended functionality over the other and or is this just a preference as to what the user prefer's to use.. 

It is nice to hear that both you and RandyT are actively working on supporting the functionality of your software..  From hear, what are your suggestions as far as where I should start working with the software?  Let's say I want to download Mala.  I then would also download either plugin or both (not sure on this one) and then what?  Do I need to download RandyT's app and try to figure out those commands?  From reading others forums, sounds like I need to create an animation config file with RandyT's Luminara app and then import it in the plugin for more functionality, (again I am not sure on this one).  All I know is that I have read through RandyT's PDF instructions for sending commands to mulitple Led-Wiz devices, wow that code is really confusing.  I am no programmer so all this is new to me.  I guess I just need some step by step instructions as far as where and how to start setting up the configuration for the functionality that I am looking for.  I want to get familiar with the available software for a week or two before I max out my credit card (ha ha ha) while purchasing all this hardware from GGG.  This will allow me to jump right into configuring the controllers as soon as I get them.  Please post back.  Thanks,

slsimon:


--- Quote from: rockin_rick on August 09, 2007, 12:34:21 pm ---So you want each players button block to have a defined 'normal' color that the buttons are always lit with.  But then every so often, you want the color blocks to rotate sequentially like a "movie marquee" a trip or few around, then land back in their 'normal' positions, right?  Sounds cool, would like to see a video of it when completed.

Rick


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Yes, very close to the functionality that I want to start with rockin_rick.  Each block of player buttons will cycle through a random color while no other player block buttons will cycle the same color at anytime.  I would like to set this up during active and inactive game play.  This is just a start though.  I may change this to inactive game play later and then allow specific buttons per game to be on to a pre-defined color and or original game color. 

I will not have any problems setting up the hardware but on the software end, this is all new to me.  I just need some guidence to as far as where to start and what applications to download and use as well as what configs I need to setup for the controllers to work correctly.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks,

arzoo:


--- Quote from: slsimon on August 09, 2007, 01:44:42 pm ---Thanks arzoo for you response.  Yes, to start with, I think I am going to attempt to cycle the block of buttons per player through a random amount of colors while at the same time, no player can have the same color of buttons.  I would like to get this setup while the FE is active (during game play) and during inactive play.  I may want to add the option for specific color per game buttons used at a later time once I determine if this is needed or not.  I really have not made a decision on this one yet... 

I have been browsing the Mala site today and noticed the two plugins you mentioned, the ledblinky 2.5 and the ledwiz plugin.  This leaves me to ask another question.  Does one plugin offer extended functionality over the other and or is this just a preference as to what the user prefer's to use.. 

It is nice to hear that both you and RandyT are actively working on supporting the functionality of your software..  From hear, what are your suggestions as far as where I should start working with the software?  Let's say I want to download Mala.  I then would also download either plugin or both (not sure on this one) and then what?  Do I need to download RandyT's app and try to figure out those commands?  From reading others forums, sounds like I need to create an animation config file with RandyT's Luminara app and then import it in the plugin for more functionality, (again I am not sure on this one).  All I know is that I have read through RandyT's PDF instructions for sending commands to mulitple Led-Wiz devices, wow that code is really confusing.  I am no programmer so all this is new to me.  I guess I just need some step by step instructions as far as where and how to start setting up the configuration for the functionality that I am looking for.  I want to get familiar with the available software for a week or two before I max out my credit card (ha ha ha) while purchasing all this hardware from GGG.  This will allow me to jump right into configuring the controllers as soon as I get them.  Please post back.  Thanks,

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Both plugins (LEDBlinky is mine, LEDWiz developed by loadman/edge) have similar functionality - both light up the correct buttons for each game, both support speech and both support LED Animations. I guess the biggest difference has to do with how the controls are mapped to the LEDs. With LEDBlinky, if you remap a control during game play, the next time you start that game, the LEDs will remap to match the buttons. LEDBlinky also support the Colors.ini file which will light the game controls to their original control panel colors. Other than that, the differences have more to do with gimmicky features. Obviously I'm a bit biased towards mine. :) I will say this, loadman provides the best MaLa/LEDWiz support around - he's always floating around the software forum solving problems!

By the way, you can download and try both plugins, but just make sure you only use one at a time - you can disable a plugin by simply changing the extension to something other than .plugin.

As for the animation stuff - the Lumaura app cannot be used to generate animations for multiple LED-Wiz devices. So you really need to wait for mine or Randy's forthcoming editors. With these you won't need to worry about any of the commands.

I'd suggest that you start by getting MaLa up and running (if that's the FE you choose to go with), and then focus on the LED stuff.


slsimon:


--- Quote from: arzoo on August 09, 2007, 02:08:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: slsimon on August 09, 2007, 01:44:42 pm ---Thanks arzoo for you response.  Yes, to start with, I think I am going to attempt to cycle the block of buttons per player through a random amount of colors while at the same time, no player can have the same color of buttons.  I would like to get this setup while the FE is active (during game play) and during inactive play.  I may want to add the option for specific color per game buttons used at a later time once I determine if this is needed or not.  I really have not made a decision on this one yet... 

I have been browsing the Mala site today and noticed the two plugins you mentioned, the ledblinky 2.5 and the ledwiz plugin.  This leaves me to ask another question.  Does one plugin offer extended functionality over the other and or is this just a preference as to what the user prefer's to use.. 

It is nice to hear that both you and RandyT are actively working on supporting the functionality of your software..  From hear, what are your suggestions as far as where I should start working with the software?  Let's say I want to download Mala.  I then would also download either plugin or both (not sure on this one) and then what?  Do I need to download RandyT's app and try to figure out those commands?  From reading others forums, sounds like I need to create an animation config file with RandyT's Luminara app and then import it in the plugin for more functionality, (again I am not sure on this one).  All I know is that I have read through RandyT's PDF instructions for sending commands to mulitple Led-Wiz devices, wow that code is really confusing.  I am no programmer so all this is new to me.  I guess I just need some step by step instructions as far as where and how to start setting up the configuration for the functionality that I am looking for.  I want to get familiar with the available software for a week or two before I max out my credit card (ha ha ha) while purchasing all this hardware from GGG.  This will allow me to jump right into configuring the controllers as soon as I get them.  Please post back.  Thanks,

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Both plugins (LEDBlinky is mine, LEDWiz developed by loadman/edge) have similar functionality - both light up the correct buttons for each game, both support speech and both support LED Animations. I guess the biggest difference has to do with how the controls are mapped to the LEDs. With LEDBlinky, if you remap a control during game play, the next time you start that game, the LEDs will remap to match the buttons. LEDBlinky also support the Colors.ini file which will light the game controls to their original control panel colors. Other than that, the differences have more to do with gimmicky features. Obviously I'm a bit biased towards mine. :) I will say this, loadman provides the best MaLa/LEDWiz support around - he's always floating around the software forum solving problems!

By the way, you can download and try both plugins, but just make sure you only use one at a time - you can disable a plugin by simply changing the extension to something other than .plugin.

As for the animation stuff - the Lumaura app cannot be used to generate animations for multiple LED-Wiz devices. So you really need to wait for mine or Randy's forthcoming editors. With these you won't need to worry about any of the commands.

I'd suggest that you start by getting MaLa up and running (if that's the FE you choose to go with), and then focus on the LED stuff.


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Thanks again arzoo.  Hey, can you provide an ETA on your software and or have you been intouch with RandyT as to know the ETA on his editor?  I don't think I am going to be able to accomplish what I want without a GUI editor. 

Also, I read a post to where RandyT created another app to support the led's being able to animate with sound.  Can you provide a link to that download and or provide a link to the forum post?  That is an app that I would like to have as well just to play around with.  I don't see a link on the GGG page with the download for it.  I am thinking it is called LuminAudio or something like that. 

I will take your suggestion and start with Mala.  Where can I obtain the latest colors.ini file and I think the other is catver.ini?  Don't both of these files contain button/CP information? 

One thing I do like about ATFE is that they have so many animated and static backgrounds/layouts.  I did not see a wide variety of backgrounds for Mala.  I am not that partial to those on the Mala site.  Are there anymore backgrounds to choose from for Mala? 

Well again, thanks for all your help.  This forum is awesome.  Everyone posting here is of much help and are thorough with their replys.  Thanks,

arzoo:


--- Quote from: slsimon on August 09, 2007, 07:59:55 pm ---Thanks again arzoo.  Hey, can you provide an ETA on your software and or have you been intouch with RandyT as to know the ETA on his editor?  I don't think I am going to be able to accomplish what I want without a GUI editor. 

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I'm hoping to have a beta ready in a couple of weeks - but this is just my hobby, so other real-life stuff tends to take precedence. Can't speak for Randy.


--- Quote ---Also, I read a post to where RandyT created another app to support the led's being able to animate with sound.  Can you provide a link to that download and or provide a link to the forum post?  That is an app that I would like to have as well just to play around with.  I don't see a link on the GGG page with the download for it.  I am thinking it is called LuminAudio or something like that.

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http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69607.0


--- Quote ---I will take your suggestion and start with Mala.  Where can I obtain the latest colors.ini file and I think the other is catver.ini?  Don't both of these files contain button/CP information?

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Colors.ini
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69839.msg713887#msg713887

Catver.ini
http://www.mameworld.net/catlist/

Neither of these files contain cp specific data.

By the way, if you can't find what you're looking for on the forum, try the wiki.


--- Quote ---One thing I do like about ATFE is that they have so many animated and static backgrounds/layouts.  I did not see a wide variety of backgrounds for Mala.  I am not that partial to those on the Mala site.  Are there anymore backgrounds to choose from for Mala? 

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Your FE background is definitely an important visual aspect of your cab - so if you don't see any you like for MaLa, you've got two choices; design your own or go with a FE that has what you like. If you have something specific in mind and don't have the skills to create the graphics yourself, post a request on the forum - you may find someone willing to help out!


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