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ChadTower:
I want a Tacoma sized pickup that can do 40mpg. Someone build that instead.
boykster:
--- Quote from: patrickl on August 08, 2007, 01:36:21 pm ---You just said that your extremely souped up V8 had trouble with basically a standard V4 with turbo. Isn't the biggest part of the weight disadvantage you suffer from the engine?
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Exactly! and not just the engine, but the drivetrain to support the extra power, the heavier chassis to support the engine, etc.
I just about spit coffee on my monitor when I read "Slap that weight in an Evo, and see how quick it is." Um, isn't the point that the Evo is designed with weight and power to weight ratio in mind? You don't need overkill HP and torque if the car is properly designed, and it will STILL be quick.
I'm not a muscle car "hater" but seriously, to dismiss smaller, lighter, faster types of cars as 'toys', thats just juvenile. And the miata is hardly a "matchbox" car; it is probably the closest contemporary representation of the truest definition of a classic sports car: open top, 2 seats, balanced handling, and enough power to be fun to drive.
Sure, power is fun, but after you've eaten through your tires driving back and forth along the straightest road you can find, sports car guys will still be tearing it up on twisty roads and will also be able to afford to fill their gas tank.
;D
Havok:
--- Quote from: shardian on August 08, 2007, 01:00:42 pm ---Do you even know what a turbo charger is? I mean seriously, you are saying that to increase power in a v8 muscle car you just increase the air pushed into the engine. That is what a turbo does! A supercharger is normally used on v-8 muscle cars and guess what, it does the same thing too.
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Yes, I do - I took automotive tech at a local community college part time when I was a "kid" because I liked to work on my car. I was addressing patrickl's question about rpms to gain power - not turbos\superchargers. And guess what? You don't need a turbo or supercharger to increase airflow\power to the engine. It can also be accomplished with a higher flow intake manifold and carb or fuel injection unit. Not to mention blueprinting, porting and polishing, stoichiometric coefficient, etc...
shardian:
--- Quote from: Havok on August 08, 2007, 02:17:37 pm ---And guess what? You don't need a turbo or supercharger to increase airflow\power to the engine. It can also be accomplished with a higher flow intake manifold and carb or fuel injection unit. Not to mention blueprinting, porting and polishing, stoichiometric coefficient, etc...
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Oh I know all of that. I was just trying to figure out if you knew all of that.
Blueprinting...I actually had to look that one up because I had never heard that phrase before. Round these parts, we call that "doing the job right".
patrickl:
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